37. The Armenian Genocide: Death Marches

Empire

Jack Davenport

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🗓️ 9 March 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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The secret orders have been given. The Armenian community is to be destroyed. Ordered to march across the desert, to unsupplied camps in Deir ez-Zor. Listen as William and Anita are, for the final time, joined by Eugene Rogan to discuss the end of the Genocide and its aftermath. LRB Empire offer: lrb.me/empire This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/empirepod. Twitter: @Empirepoduk Goalhangerpodcasts.com Producer: Callum Hill Exec Producer: Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:14.4	W.
0:15.1	W. Empire pod UK.com. Hello and me.
0:24.0	me.
0:25.0	We're here.
0:28.0	Hello and welcome to Empire with me Anita Arnan and me William
0:35.2	Durham. So William on Tuesday we had a what I thought anyway for me it was a difficult
0:40.6	conversation about the build-up to the Armenian genocide.
0:44.4	Yep, we looked at previous outbreaks of violence against the Armenians in the form of the
0:49.2	massacres during the reign of Abdul Hamid and the massacres at Adana in
0:54.4	nine. And then we were taking a look at the way the First World War escalated
1:00.0	absolutely everything. I mean just like a catalyst into this chemical combustion that was already happening.
1:05.4	The Ottoman government attempted to deport Armenians as they feared they were the enemy within.
1:10.8	When we left you we had secret kill orders issued by the young Turk's central government.
1:18.4	And Anita, you asked about the hundreds of thousands of Armenians who were being deported.
1:24.3	Were they being sent anywhere with any intent
1:26.1	or were they just being left to die?
1:28.2	We are once again joined by the great Eugene Rogan,
1:31.5	author of the fall of the Ottomans.
1:33.7	Eugene, what was the plan for these deportations?
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