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Journey Through Time

37. From The Kardashians to Donald Trump: The History of Reality TV (Ep 3)

Journey Through Time

Goalhanger

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4.3595 Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

What unbelievable and ethically dubious Reality TV concepts made it onto our screens in the 2000s? What was behind Big Brother’s game changing popularity?  How did Trump’s time on The Apprentice pave the way for his presidency? Join David Olusoga and Sarah Churchwell as they explore the latest chapter in the story of Reality TV’s worldwide success.  Email: journeythroughtime@goalhanger.com  X: @ThroughTimePod Blue Sky: @ThroughTimePod Instagram: @JourneyThroughTimePod Social Producer: Emma Jackson, Harry Balden Producer: Alice Horrell Head of History: Dom Johnson Exec Producer: Tony Pastor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:46.5

Welcome to Journey Through Time. I'm Sarah Churchwell. And I'm David Olushoog.

0:50.4

And this is the last of our three episodes on the strange, surreal, sometimes disturbing history of reality TV.

1:00.7

Already at the end.

1:01.7

I mean, three episodes.

1:02.9

It's a great story, but we've still got to catch ourselves up to the present.

1:06.4

And included in that present is the fact that you, David, are participating in reality TV as we record these episodes.

1:15.7

Yeah, after decades of watching it and being into the TV industry, you're making it, I have for reasons I'm still not entirely sure why become a participant rather than a view of reality TV.

1:27.0

Though, I think Traders is a sort of

1:29.1

gentler form of reality TV than many of the shows, a lot of the shows we're going to talk about

1:33.7

in this episode, because we're in the 2000s, the kind of really crazy decades of reality TV. But really

1:40.5

what began that era was Big Brother, was the show that built on the success of MTV's The Real World and became kind of the show that just kind of revolutionized television.

1:50.6

Well, and it was a show that I know you really loved.

1:52.6

Yeah, it was, I said in our first episode, I was a young TV producer making my first programs.

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