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Down to Birth

#367 | Your VBAC Questions Answered by The First Woman to Have One, Nancy Wainer

Down to Birth

Cynthia Overgard & Trisha Ludwig

Pregnancy, Childbirth, Postpartum, Midwives, Alternative Health, Home Birth, Society & Culture, Newborn, Documentary, Hypnobirthing, Kids & Family, Health & Fitness, Breastfeeding, Pregnant, Birth, Maternity, Motherhood

4.8586 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

In today’s episode, Cynthia and Trisha are joined once again by Nancy Wainer, award-winning author, longtime home birth midwife, and the woman who coined the term VBAC in her 1980s book Silent Knife. With decades of experience supporting women through vaginal birth after cesarean, Nancy brings clarity to a conversation that is shaped by fear, false information, and shifting medical standards. This episode is part free-flowing conversation and part Q&A, where we take listener questions and...

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0:00.0

And you looked at her and you loved her and you talked to her and that doula said to me,

0:06.8

she never put her hands inside of her.

0:10.1

And Nancy, I just don't even know if you can understand and appreciate how rare you are,

0:14.8

even as a home birth midwife.

0:17.0

You're going to make me cry.

0:18.6

You're going to really make me cry.

0:27.1

The birth situation in this country in the world, but in this country is absolutely a flipping mess.

0:31.6

The doctor has concerns about baby's head circumference.

0:34.2

What are you holding up there, Nancy?

0:35.6

That is my penis gauge. When a doctor tell somebody that he's worried about

0:39.0

the woman's, you know, pelvic size, the baby's size, you show this and you ask him to tell him

0:47.1

what size his penis is now and what size it's going to be when he's turned on and tell her

0:52.4

she's going to be really turned on when she has her

0:54.6

baby and her pelvis is going to be just the right size for this little baby to come.

0:58.3

That was everyone's cue to get over to YouTube and see what Nancy just held up.

1:04.2

I'm Cynthia Overgard, birth educator, advocate for informed consent, and postpartum support

1:10.2

specialist.

1:16.9

And I'm Trescia Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board certified lactation consultant.

1:19.4

And this is the Down to Birth Show.

1:23.3

Childbirth is something we're made to do.

1:27.8

But how do we have our safest and most satisfying experience in today's medical culture?

1:30.7

Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.

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