And this is often a point I've noticed where moms especially have to hold boundaries for the first time.

Like imagine those moms who have been using nursing sort of as a tool for comfort day or night.

And this is the first time that they're saying, I have to say no or I'm deciding to say no.

Or set rules like we can nurse during the day

but not at night and that's really hard I found it hard too you just want to give your baby everything

and you know how much like breastfeeding and bed sharing mean to them it's their safe space

you can see it on their face the bliss you know and so. And so it's kind of, it's, I always

tell parents, get ready, you're going to learn a lot and grow through this too, because it just

brings up a lot of stuff. It's not easy at all. I'm Cynthia Overgard, birth educator, advocate for

informed consent and postpartum support specialist.

And I'm Tresha Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board certified lactation consultant.

And this is the Down to Birth Show.

Childbirth is something we're made to do.

But how do we have our safest and most satisfying experience in

today's medical culture? Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.

All right. Well, my name is Tiffany Ballinger. I'm so happy to be here with you guys. I am, I call myself like a safe co-sleeping educator. There wasn't really anybody doing this when I started back in 2018. That's when I became a parent. And I didn't plan on bed sharing. I didn't even know the term bed sharing back then. And it was really hard for me when my

newborn refused to sleep in his crib. He would only sleep on my chest or in my arms. And I quickly

realized that I needed to figure out how to keep him safe in my bed or else nobody was going to be

sleeping in-house. And back then, it was really hard to find information on it. Like right now,

if you go to Instagram, there are so many pages and accounts talking about how to safely

co-sleep and how to, there's something called holistic sleep specialists. I have so many

friends who do that. And it's just a different world right now. And we're so lucky to have it,

...