Welcome back, everybody. I'm your host, Greg McEwen, and we're going to jump into a fascinating

conversation here with Jenny Wood, who spent the best part of 20 years in the Googleplex,

doing all sorts of interesting things. An executive, as it's growing, as it's becoming

what you and I know of as Google today, she was responsible in some of her responsibilities there

for driving billions of dollars of revenue per year. But in 2021, she launched a project within Google

called Own Your Career, which is just the kind of thing that you would expect to be happening at Google, somebody deciding, this is what I'm passionate about, this is what I'm interested, and I want to pursue it, and that's what she did. But it's grown into all sorts of things, both within the organization, all sorts of influence principles, you know, personal branding and

relationship building and effective email writing, and you can imagine all of the things that go with

that. But then she's gone beyond that in now writing a book with a fascinating title and idea.

It's wild courage, as if courage is not hard enough, as if courage doesn't feel bad

enough. This is wild courage to go after what you want and get it. Now the gist of it, and Jenny's

going to correct me where I'm wrong, is said like this, even though I don't think this is actually

really the idea. It's said a little, even though I don't think this is actually really the idea,

it's said a little like this, that Jenny used manipulation and go after what you want,

and recklessness and bossiness, that's her word, not mine, and shamelessness to get what she wants,

and that you can too. Now behind those words there's a lot more meaning,

there's a lot more nuance. But underneath it all, I think there's something universally

connecting to us, which is there are times in our lives when we hold back when we shouldn't,

when we stay silent when we should speak up, that we remain timid in the name, let's say,

of meekness or even the word peacemaking, neither of which I think are used well in the world today.

We will not do what we think we should do. And we are worse for it. Our relationships are worse for

it. And the world that desperately

needs the best of us is also the worst for it. Jenny Wood is going to help us solve that.

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