#363 What are America's Founding Principles? w/ Hans Zeiger
The Road to Now
Benjamin Sawyer
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 16 March 2026
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Ben & Bob speak with Hans Zeiger, President of the Jack Miller Center for Teaching America's Founding Principles & History. We discuss the work that the JMC is doing to promote teaching the founding principles and civics to Americas young people from kindergarten through college. The JMC will be hosting a National Summit on Civil Education in Philadelphia, May 18-19. Click here for details.
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This episode was edited by Gary Fletcher.
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| 0:00.0 | Ben Sawyer. How you doing, man? Greg Jackson, I'm doing great and you got a book coming out. |
| 0:05.5 | I do have a book coming out. You ever thought about the greatest way possible to celebrate your book coming out? |
| 0:10.5 | Yes, actually. And I think the best way to do that is on open waters. You want to go on a history cruise? |
| 0:17.4 | I think that's a great idea. And you know what? We should record an episode of the road to now at sea. Okay, deal, but can we only do it the worst days of the week, the ones that normally we have to go to work on? Well, I'm thinking May 18th through the 22nd. That's a Monday through a Friday that would wipe out an entire week of work days. I love it. Let's go ahead and do that. But you have to do some stand-up comedy as well. Okay, but you have to do your live show then. So you want me to do my live show and launch my book? Yes. Guys, everything you just heard is real. We are going on a cruise May 18th through May 22nd. We're going to be on the open water. It is history. It is fun. It is nature. It is blue skies and blue |
| 0:54.9 | seas. And if you want to join us, htdscruise.com, go with there. Enter your promo code, |
| 1:01.5 | RTN. And that'll get you $100 off. And I can't even tell you how excited I am to be inviting |
| 1:07.1 | everyone to be a part of this thing. Hope to see you there. |
| 1:14.0 | I'm Bob Crawford. |
| 1:15.4 | I'm Ben Sawyer. |
| 1:17.3 | And this is the road to now. |
| 1:21.2 | Ben, you and I talk a lot about civics. |
| 1:22.9 | Yes, and education. |
| 1:23.8 | And education. |
| 1:26.3 | That is your life's work. |
| 1:30.8 | You do so well at MTSU. And think like to think that's that's what we do where we're constantly educating people about history and about politics and about civics and |
| 1:37.1 | hopefully we're doing it in a way that is not hostile or or alienating hopefully we are just kind of given the truth |
| 1:46.3 | as we come across it and sharing good history |
| 1:48.8 | and good lessons about the Constitution |
| 1:50.6 | and about civics with everybody out there. |
| 1:54.1 | So today we're gonna continue that. |
| 1:56.6 | Today our guest is Hans Ziger. |
| 1:58.4 | He's the president of the Jack Miller Center. |
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