I'm Ben Sawyer.

I'm Bob Crawford.

And you are today's guest on the road to now, Bob.

What, me?

Yes, you are.

It's a new world.

Well, thank you, Ben, for having me on the road to now.

It's great to have you here, Bob.

In a role reversal, right?

I mean, you know, we've had conversations just the two of us where we've talked about things. But for the first time, we're now going to be having you on is actually, I'm going to be interviewing you as a guest. Sorry, Bob, I'm so nervous. I can make it today as my co-host. He will be here as the author of today's book. Bob, your book is coming out. And for those of you guys who are listening, this is launching on March 9th on Monday. The book comes out the next day, right? And so you can go ahead and pre-order it to get a delivery. Order at your local book shop if you want to, however you get it. The book, Bob, is America's founding son, John Quincy Adams, from president to political maverick out here from Zando Press and today we're going to talk about this book and how you feeling right now Bob?

I feel great. I feel really good. Yeah. Do you feel a sense of release? Yeah, yeah I do. I felt when they

when the first box came to the house and I wasn't

expecting them and I opened it up and, you know, the next night, like held it my hand. I was like,

okay. You can, because you're always like editing and then like proofreading and then, you know,

thinking about what could have done this differently

or could have like like so I had a moment of like yes this is this is good this is a good thing

this is real well I'm excited about it and I have to say I work on my time management and I

nailed this one I literally finished the last page of this book about six minutes before

we sat down to record and it was perfect timing because you know this from doing the interviews. It's always nice whenever the book is fresh. It is. There's no doubt about that. Literally started, I had read some of it before. I started back on it Sunday and I timed it and I was like, I'm gonna get up at 7.30 and, and I'm going to read from 8 until noon when we record,

and so it's fresh in my mind. And let me tell you this, sometimes as a person who has attention

and issues, I have trouble staying focused on something. I never did with this book. I never did.

The book read itself, Bob. Well, good, because like, how long would you say it took you to read the book? Oh, shoot. I would say I was, what was I, like, around page 80 or something like that when I when I picked back up with it, because I started to read it when I first got it. Let's see, I maybe spent three hours on Sunday, an hour, no, two hours yesterday, and then today, about three and a half hours.

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