My guest today is Darren Grimes. He's a political commentator and a YouTuber. We're talking about the problem with conservatism.

Conservatism might be the least sexy political viewpoint there is. The right-hand side of the aisle is

hardly setting anyone's pants or blaze and

almost feels like a movement that should come wrapped in a flat cap and a smoking jacket. Is this just the way things are?

And is it healthy for a functioning democracy to have a political discussion online, which is dominated by one side that is far more glitzy and

glamorous than the other? So today, expect to learn whether Olympic athletes should be figureheads for politics.

Why Darren still receives so much Brexit hate four years later, whether UK political commentator celebrity boxing could be a successful business,

the reason that young people aren't seduced by conservative politics and

much more.

No matter what your political inclination is, the goal should be to have a country and a world that is well-run and

everyone can agree or they should be able to

that that means that both sides need to be competing and working as well and effectively as they can. Like the left

probably could do with stopping from focusing on identity quite so much. That would probably mean that a lot more people would take their

proposals seriously and the right probably does need to get with the times a little bit more and try and update its talking points to be more interesting.

Maybe today there's some ideas that might help or maybe it's just two Northern lads talking about stuff they don't know.

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