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Today I'm speaking with Juliet Kayem. Juliet is, as you'll hear, one of the leading experts on

Homeland Security, and she's written a book which I'm loving, entitled Security Mom,

an unclassified guide to protecting our homeland and your home. Juliet served as an assistant

secretary at the Department of Homeland Security, where she handled diverse crises such as the H1N1

scare and the BP oil spill. She was also the Homeland Security Advisor for the State of Massachusetts.

You've seen her very likely on CNN as an analyst, and she was actually a finalist for the Pulitzer

Prize in 2013 for her columns in the Boston Globe. She's a graduate from Harvard and Harvard

Law School. She's currently on faculty at Harvard's Kennedy School, where I met her because she

moderated the event I did with Majinawa to launch her book, Islam in the Future of Tolerance,

for Harvard University Press. Juliet was great at that event. She was really a fantastic moderator

when you look at the background she has resisting the impulse to take up equal time on the stage,

giving her views, had to be excruciating, given how qualified she was to have expounded upon those

topics. So if you look at that event on YouTube, you will see impeccable generosity and tact on

the part of a moderator, as well as an impressive case of jet lag on the part of yours truly.

In any case, it was a real pleasure to get a chance to return the favor and have Juliet on the

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