Hey everyone. Welcome to the Natasha Crane Podcast. Well a few months ago my husband

and I attended a pro-life fundraising event where my guest today Seth

Grouber was the host and speaker.

Now I had known of Seth by name before that but I hadn't seen much of his work.

I think we were actually Facebook friends at that point even though he had never communicated just because we had so many mutual connections.

Well, he blew me away that night with his boldness in the pursuit of waking people up to the reality of what is going on in our country today

especially with respect to abortion. So I had a chance to talk with him at some

length after the event and we quickly found out that we have a lot in common in our concerns

about and our frustrations with the sleepiness of the church in this current culture and also with the

evangelical leaders who contribute to the confusion.

So I am thrilled to have Seth on today to talk about all of this.

We're going to dive in in just a second, but first I want to make sure that everyone

knows about the next two unshaken conference dates.

In case you missed it, Elisa Childers and I did a Christmas live stream for our Unshaken Faith

podcast and in that we announced the next two dates.

Now if you're new to my podcast and you have no idea

what I'm talking about, Elisa and I are doing a conference series with our friend

Frank Turick in which we equip and encourage you to stand firm on the truth of

Jesus in this chaotic culture.

We did four dates in 2023, but thanks to the great turnouts that we had, we decided to extend

the series for four more dates in new locations for 2024. So the big news is that we announced our next two

dates. They're going to be March 9th at Metro City Church in Taylor

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