Well, we have a great one today, you know, for a change.

I'm going to be talking to Lawrence O'Donnell Jr.

Lawrence, of course, is the host of MSNBC's The Last Word, the network's second highest rated program after Rachel Maddow's show.

She delivers Lawrence a huge lead-in, and what percentage of her audience do you lose I pro I squander a minimum of 10%

on a good night I lose 10% on on an average night I lose I lose I don't know

a little more than that and do you know when you lose them I mean she does this thing

where she tosses off to you and you're on split screen.

I imagine the Rachel officiados stay for that.

I would if I was a Rachel official. Why would you leave? She's still talking.

Yes. And then when the split screen goes to you, well, then they leave? I would

assume there's a cliff there. You know, I've never seen them, but you, you know, the way we got

our ratings are in 15-minute blocks, right? So I will see the hour divided into 15-minute blocks.

And so I see what that first basically 15 minutes is. And that's always the highest.

They do minute by minute ratings.

Oh, you should get that.

And you have to ask for them.

And it takes them a while to develop them.

They give them to you.

Because I could see then the minute to minute.

The second she says, you know, good night.

Like what happens?

Yeah, I just, the minute it goes full screen to you yeah just i would

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