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Achtung Achtung, welcome to We Have Ways of Making You Talk with me, Almari and with James Holland of course,

who sat surrounded by car key,

Bren guns, SMLEs or smelly's as I got told they were called the other day.

And who are we talking to today James?

Well I'm really pleased about this one. We've got Lucy Betraye-Dyson, who is a military historian.

She's also the founder of her story club which is, helps to connect women with a passion for history

and a past and she's a specialist in the first war and horses I think I'm right in saying Lucy,

but also the Arakon and particularly the third Arakon campaign which of course we touched on the other day when we were talking about Hill 170.

And you know we're fantastic of you to come on and bring it to see you.

Yeah, I'm pleased to be here and I think it's great the other day hearing you guys touch on this campaign as well

because it's something that I think hasn't received the attention it serves over the years.

I mean this is genuine, I mean you know we've rolled our eye roll my eyes a little at the idea of the forgotten army

because after all it was the thing they liked to call themselves in sort of ironic celebration of their achievements at the time

wasn't it? I think it's fair to say but this is genuinely, it's the neglected bit of the forgotten army

if you get if there's a sort of pecking order of oblivion for the third campaigns in the far east

this is pretty much at the bottom isn't it? It is yeah it's the forgotten battle of the forgotten army

which is no longer really forgotten but this this this particular action I think

let's also it's forgotten because it's not but it's it's definitely not received as much attention as other things

you know we hear a lot about Mahima and Infel so yeah so also what's going on it sort of roughly the same

not quite I mean this is a bit of a kind of precursor isn't it but but the same sort of time we're going into

you know the main frost is going down towards Mandalay crossing the Wadi and all that kind of stuff and

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