#359 | Jacob Helberg: The Geopolitics of the Great U.S.-China Tech Decoupling

The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.8 • 2.5K Ratings

🗓️ 11 April 2023

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Jacob Helberg, member of the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission and author of The Wires of War: Technology and the Global Struggle for Power, joins The Realignment. Jacob discusses the broader implications of the TikTok ban debate, why the Grindr CFIUS forced sale precedent wouldn't actually address national security concerns related to TikTok, why U.S. investors shouldn't fund China's tech industry, especially in critical areas like AI, and the proper framework for approaching technological competition issues moving forward.

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