Good, Chuck. Welcome them. Welcome, everybody. Thanks so much for joining us. This is episode

359. It's called Teddy and Booker Tee with Brian Kilmead. Almost makes me wonder why you need

me for this thing, honestly.

I'm kidding, of course.

I'm a critical part of the way I heard it, and so are you.

Thank you for being here.

Chuck is correct.

It's episode 359.

My guest is the one and only Brian Kilmead.

Although, if you pay attention to all things media, you might wonder if there's somebody else that looks a lot like him, a clone, for instance, because that guy makes me tired.

I mean, he's writing books. He's hosting three different shows. He does a radio show. He's constantly

doing live appearances. He's deep, deep, deep into all kinds of historical research. He's a great guest and he's written another amazing book. And this one we're both pretty excited about. It is called Teddy and Booker Tee, referring course, to Teddy Roosevelt and Booker T. Washington

and the many extraordinary things that we enjoy today, thanks to their happy, serendipitous,

if not coincidental meeting over 125 years ago. Accurate?

I suppose so. I don't know how happy everything was because it was, you know, there was a whole lot of racial strife, you know, very similar to now, actually.

But the subtitle is how two American icons blazed a path for racial equality.

Yeah.

It's similar to a degree of his previous book, which was the president and the freedom fighter about...

Lincoln and Frederick Douglass.

Right. Yeah. So this is another president and another civil rights activist, you know,

created basically the Tuskegee School. Is that right?

Tuskegee Institute. Yeah. Yeah. Extraordinary. If you don't know it, you'll learn it in this Institute, yeah. Yeah, extraordinary.

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