358: Clint Hill and Lisa McCubbin Hill—Five Days in November

The Way I Heard It with Mike Rowe

History, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 14 November 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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60 years after that horrible day in November when our 35th president was gunned down in Dallas, one of only two secret service agents from that detail still alive today gives his reflections and first-hand account and explains the difference between facts and theories.

Clint Hill is joined by his wife and co-author Lisa McCubbin Hill to discuss the day America lost its innocence, a secret service reunion 60 years in the making, and the 60th anniversary commemorative edition of their book Five Days in November.

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0:00.0	Well, hi again. It's me, Mike Rowe, with another unforgettable episode of the way I heard. It's
0:09.3	specifically, it's 358. It's called Five Days in November. Because Chuck, it occurs to me that,
0:17.3	and I don't want to say this the wrong way, but I don't think I'm the most famous person in my neighborhood anymore.
0:25.0	You're just finding this out, but I think everybody in your neighborhood knows that.
0:30.6	Clint is a national treasure.
0:33.7	People tell me I'm a national treasure, but I don't think they really understand what a national treasure is.
0:39.1	You know, this is one of those conversations that will force you to draw a line. Sure, you might like me.
0:44.5	You may have seen me on TV shows such as dirty jobs. Somebody's got to do it in returning the favor.
0:50.1	And maybe you've read a book or seen a speech or enjoyed this podcast.
1:00.3	But whatever, that's just a guy making a living doing the best he can with the cards he's got.
1:08.1	Clint Hill starred in a movie that, well, unlike any other, he started into Zeprooter film.
1:10.7	There he is and there he was. And today, he is still
1:12.6	seared into our collective retina as the guy who was on hand. Seconds after, JFK was assassinated,
1:20.9	threw himself over Jackie's body and JFK's, and his life has never been the same. And aside from my mom, I think he's the only
1:31.0	person to be on this podcast now for, what, three times. This is the third time we've had him on.
1:37.2	Third time's a charm, yeah. And I'm sorry just to bring this back to me ever so briefly, Chuck,
1:42.3	but it occurs to me that my mother is now more
1:44.6	famous than I am as well. This is not going as I have planned it. I didn't want to bring that up,
1:50.2	but listen, I think your mom would even agree that Clint Hill is more of a national treasure than
1:55.7	either of you. Yeah, yeah, sadly, I think you're right. But on the positive side, I wound up through complete happenstance having access to this man. You know, he's 91 years old now. He'll be 92 in January, I believe. And he and his wife, Lisa, have written five books, I think. And one of them has just been re-released. Ten years ago, five days in
2:19.3	November came out. It was a bestseller. It was an important book then, but I think it's actually
2:24.5	more important now. They've re-released a very limited number. This is a collector's edition with an
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