The daily struggle against assimilation, Bishop Donald Hying, next.

Hello and welcome to Focus the Catholic Dance Response Podcast for Living,

Understanding and Defending Your Catholic Faith, I'm Psy Kelly at Your Host.

And among the many problems that we face as Catholics in the modern world is the need to resist,

just simply being assimilated into the culture. There are millions and millions of us Catholics who

one way or another are better categorized by pop culture, better categorized by political

culture, better categorized by the world than we are by the church, by the gospel, and by Jesus

himself. How do we resist that? We'll Bishop Donald Hying as the Bishop of Madison, Wisconsin.

And he's got a new book out called Love Never Fails, Living the Catholic Faith in Our Daily Lives,

in which he gives us the understanding that fighting against assimilation

and living a distinctively Catholic life is a daily undertaking. And there are tools that we can

access to help us in that daily undertaking. Here's Bishop Hying.

Bishop Donald Hying of Madison, Wisconsin, thank you so much for being here with us for this

conversation. I want to try to be on the show. Thank you so much.

Congratulations on the new book Love Never Fails, Living the Catholic Faith in Our Daily Lives.

Our daily lives, in many ways, seem to be creating a pressure against living our Catholic faith.

Do you have the sense of that? Is the Bishop that there's a certain kind of resistance required

to live our Catholic faith on a daily basis? I think so. In some ways, when you study church

history, it's probably an anomaly when there isn't a lot of resistance. So maybe we've been comfortable,

we've been comfortable for many decades here in the United States with the religious freedom,

the church respected, scores of people going to mass and participating. But when you study

church history, really the norm is that we often live in moments of persecution, internal strife,

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