The following is a conversation with Paul Conti, a psychiatrist and a brilliant scholar of human nature.

My friend Andrew Huberman told me that Paul and I absolutely must meet and talk not just about the topic of trauma,

which Paul wrote an amazing book about, but broadly about human nature, about narcissism, sociopathy, psychopathy, good and evil, hate and love, happiness and envy.

As usual, Andrew was right. This was a fascinating conversation. As the old meme goes, one does not simply doubt the advice of Andrew Huberman.

Allow me to also quickly mention that I disagree with Paul a bunch in this episode, as I do in other episodes, even with experts.

In part for fun and in part because I think the tension of ideas and conversation is what creates insights and wisdom.

My goal is to always empathize, understand and explore ideas of the person sitting across from me.

This agreement is just one of the ways I think it's fun to do just that, as long as I do so from a place of curiosity and compassion.

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