#357 - Jill Robin Payne: Banter + Empathy Benefits, The Problems With "Boundaries", The Power of Language, Complimenting People, Navigating Virtual Reality, Dynamic Watchfulness, The Map Of Reflection, The Anxiety Bubble, Combatting Cognitive Bias, And More!
The Melanie Avalon Biohacking Podcast
Melanie Avalon
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🗓️ 5 June 2026
⏱️ 99 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | So there's positives and negatives to everything. |
| 0:05.0 | We just need to understand that we are human and we're not going to like everybody, not everybody's going to like us. |
| 0:12.0 | And just because I don't like someone doesn't mean I can't work with them. |
| 0:16.0 | I can dislike my boss and I still need to know how to get along. |
| 0:20.0 | And that is what empathy is about. We need |
| 0:22.7 | to be dynamic in being watchful. So we need to be on high alert on what is going on and how this is |
| 0:31.5 | affecting ourselves. Welcome to the Melanie Avalon biohacking podcast, where we meet the world's |
| 0:37.3 | top experts to explore the |
| 0:39.1 | secrets of health, mindset, longevity, and so much more. Are you ready to take charge of your |
| 0:45.0 | existence and biohack your life? This show is for you. Please keep in mind. We're not dispensing |
| 0:51.5 | medical advice and are not responsible for any outcomes you may |
| 0:55.3 | experience from implementing the tactics lying herein. So friends, are you ready to join me? |
| 1:01.3 | Let's do this. |
| 1:06.4 | Welcome back to the Melanie Avalon biohacking podcast. Oh my goodness, friends. What a fun, |
| 1:12.1 | enlightening conversation we have today with Jill Robin Payne. I am so fascinated by her concept of |
| 1:18.1 | empathy, which yes is the title of her book that we talk about today, which is the concept of |
| 1:23.4 | using banter and empathy to truly connect with people and address all of the conflict and |
| 1:29.3 | division that we experience today. Also, if after listening you would like to work with Jill, |
| 1:34.4 | she is giving my audience 10% off her sessions. For that, just go to her website, jill robinpane.com, |
| 1:40.8 | or you can email her at aboutjil robinpane at gmail.com and then just tell her I sent to you for 10% off. |
| 1:48.2 | In today's episode, we talk about so many fascinating topics, things like the problems with |
| 1:53.8 | quote boundaries and what you should have instead, the true power of language and why you should |
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