3564: The 4% Rule and Why We're Not Relying on It by Kiersten Saunders of Rich and Regular on Flexible Retirement
Optimal Finance Daily - Financial Independence and Money Advice
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🗓️ 18 May 2026
⏱️ 12 minutes
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| 0:24.7 | This is Optimal Finance Daily, the 4% rule and why we're not relying on it by Kirsten |
| 0:31.1 | Saunders of rich and regular.com. |
| 0:34.5 | I don't remember everything about that day, but it's safe to say that my brain exploded when I learned about the 4% rule. |
| 0:42.4 | I don't recall which blogger or financial article introduced me to the concept, but I know I've learned a little from a number of places. |
| 0:50.7 | I also remember being skeptical, which led me to search for varying explanations from those who might |
| 0:56.8 | debunk the math as a myth, but I never found it. What I did find was a tribe of adventurous, |
| 1:04.5 | smart, and quirky people in the fire movement, who each had their own way of explaining it, |
| 1:10.0 | and my life hasn't been the same since. |
| 1:12.7 | With a vision for the future, a group of online homies cheering me on, and now a formula, I knew exactly |
| 1:19.4 | what I needed to do. Shortly after that day, I remember crunching some numbers, reviewing various |
| 1:25.3 | paths to get there, and challenging myself to be a millionaire by 2020. |
| 1:30.4 | For a 27-year-old grad student, it was exciting and overwhelming at the same time. |
| 1:37.2 | We referred to our plan to achieve financial independence and retire early, but haven't gone in depth about the underlying math behind this decision. |
| 1:46.2 | This is for several reasons. |
| 1:48.7 | One, we're not financial educators and don't particularly enjoy presenting data this way. |
| 1:54.8 | We're much more comfortable presenting concepts and applying tolerable doses of math |
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