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This Is Actually Happening

352: A World Beyond Revenge: What if they got the wrong guy?

This Is Actually Happening

Wondery

True Crime, Tiah, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.69.9K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

After an unsuspecting man is brutally beaten in a surprise attack, he faces crippling anxiety, rage and homelessness for decades until he is able to meet the man who harmed him.


This episode is the second in our five part series, “A World Beyond Revenge” featuring five powerful stories of people on both sides of tragic incidents of unimaginable harm who found healing through the groundbreaking process of Restorative Justice. 

 

Today’s episode featured Will Gilluley. If you’d like to reach out to Will, please email him at [email protected] or find him on Instagram @WhyMeWill


Will’s podcast appearances:

Face to Face with the Man who Kidnapped and Tortured Me

I was Tortured by Kev Lane: Will Gilluley

 

Why Me? are a national charity in the UK, promoting access to Restorative Justice for people affected by crime or conflict. They also support people who have been through the Restorative Justice process to share their stories. If you want to find out more about Restorative Justice, visit their website www.why-me.org. If you want help accessing Restorative Justice in the UK, you can contact them via [email protected]


LinkedIn: Why me? UK

Instagram: @whymeuk

Facebook: @WhymeUK

Threads: @whymeuk

Bluesky: @whymeuk.bsky.social


Yoana Tchoukleva is an attorney, RJ practitioner, & lecturer at Berkeley Law. She is also a Senior Program Manager at Impact Justice. You can email her at [email protected]. You can reach out to her on Instagram @yoana.tch and on Facebook @""Yoana Tchoukleva"", and on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ioanatchoukleva/. Please consider donating to Atunse Justice League.  



Producers: Whit Missildine, Andrew Waits, Forrest Chiras


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Content/Trigger Warnings: violent bodily assault, grievous bodily injury, kidnapping, extorsion, living unhoused, drug & alcohol abuse, mental health crisis, emotional distress, explicit language

 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Wondry Plus subscribers can listen to exclusive episodes of This Is Actually Happening

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by joining Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts.

0:09.6

This Is Actually Happening features real experiences that often include traumatic events.

0:13.9

Please consult the show notes for specific content warnings on each episode

0:17.0

and for more information about support services.

0:26.8

Hi listeners.

0:32.6

Today, we continue our five-part mini-series, a world beyond revenge, which features five stories of people who have been on both sides of violent and tragic incidents of harm and

0:37.1

have found a new

0:37.9

path to healing through the groundbreaking process of restorative justice.

0:42.2

Last week, we began with Heather's powerful account of losing her brother to a hate crime.

0:46.7

If you haven't already, I highly recommend listening to that episode.

0:49.8

You can also dive deeper into the foundations of restorative justice with my bonus conversation

0:54.5

with Yawanna Chukleva, the framework of restorative justice, also released last week.

0:59.8

Today, we feature the second story in our series that comes to us from the UK.

1:04.1

For our UK stories, we collaborated with a UK-based non-profit dedicated to restorative

1:08.9

justice, called Why Me? As a counterpart to our conversation

1:12.8

with Yawanna last week, this coming Thursday will be releasing another bonus episode, a conversation

1:18.3

with Kiva Baxter, Communications and Campaigns Manager at Why Me, where we discuss the differences

1:24.1

in how restorative justice is viewed and implemented in the UK versus in the US.

1:29.1

So stay tuned for that conversation on Thursday.

1:31.9

But today we bring you part two of our series.

1:35.0

Will Gil Yuli's astonishing story.

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