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Must be 21 plus, not available in all locations. What's up friends? Welcome back to another episode of the new Evangelicals

podcast. All right, this is kind of like an emergency broadcast episode

because I just

I just interviewed Jessica Johnson. Now if you don't know the name you should because she wrote the book

biblical porn which was actually a study on a small little church you might have heard of called Mars Hill. Yes, that

Mars Hill, the one that Mark Driscoll started. Now of course a lot of us know

that Mark Driscoll is really under fire recently also he's been platformed recently and we've covered it pretty

extensively on our Instagram and I wanted to get Jessica on because Jessica has been following

Mark and Mars Hill for a long time, way before the more recent

Mars Hill podcast came out put on by Christianity today.

So I wanted to get her on.

The other interesting thing that I discovered in the interview is that Jessica does not identify as a Christian.

She is an anthropologist and her job is to do these kinds of studies and to research this kind of stuff.

So it was actually fascinating and getting someone's perspective who is really outside of the

evangelical bubble and to get her view on this. Jessica also of the for it just not being maybe as thorough as it could have been so we talked about that we talked

about her time at Mars Hill and of course we talked about the future of the evangelical

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