Hey, I'm Natasha Crane, and I'm Elisa Childers.

Welcome to Unshaken Faith, where we equip you to live your Christian faith

boldly in a chaotic culture. Well, we are just a few days away from our Detroit Unshaken Conference. We really hope you'll come out and join us if you're in the Detroit area.

We're going to be at metro citychurch this Saturday and you can still get tickets at unshaken

conference.com. We'd love to see you all come out. And I have a special guest with me in the podcast today,

and it's not Natasha.

No, I'm not as smart as Natasha.

I wish I was, Elisa.

We all wish that we were.

I'm just a third wheel in the Unshaken conference yeah I know I'm just the third wheel so I'm here with our friend

Frank Turric he's going to be joining us at well all of all of the unshaken conferences and it's been such a blast to go to each city and just kind of present this stuff.

So I thought we could give our audience a little bit of a preview of what you're going to be talking about this weekend.

So what are the topics you're going to be talking about and

what are you feeling really excited to let people know about?

One of the main sessions I'm doing has to do with should you follow your heart

because that is what has swept our culture

that if I have a certain feeling on my heart whether it's sexual that's primarily

where people say they're going to follow their heart. They have this sexual desire and they have to follow it that I I have to do that and if you try and tell me I can't do that

Alisa that's judgmental because you know as Natasha has pointed out feelings in the secular

world are the ultimate guide and so you can't judge my feelings because happiness is

my goal so you can't judge me and by the way God's the ultimate guess so there's no way and no one whether this is really right or not I just get to follow my heart and I point out in the presentation that there's at least three reasons why you can't follow your heart at least not

consistently even if you wanted to follow your heart you couldn't do it because well one of

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