349: The Difference Between Recovery and Sobriety With Randy Haveson
Soberful
Veronica Valli
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 13 May 2026
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the SoberFull podcast, Veronica Valli interviews Randy Haverson, who shares his remarkable journey of sobriety spanning over 42 years. Randy discusses his early struggles with addiction, the turning point that led him to seek help, and the profound difference between simply being sober and being in recovery. He emphasizes the importance of emotional sobriety, self-discovery, and the strength found in vulnerability. The conversation highlights the ongoing journey of personal growth and the transformative power of connecting with others who share similar experiences. In this conversation, Randy and Veronica explore the transformative journey of recovery, emphasizing the importance of inner dialogue, support systems, and self-discovery. They discuss the significance of play and emotional understanding in recovery, as well as the empowerment that comes from overcoming personal struggles. Randy shares insights from his own experiences, including the role of therapy and journaling, and highlights the continuous nature of personal growth. The conversation concludes with reflections on connection, purpose, and the profound changes that can occur when one commits to recovery.
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| 0:00.0 | I dreamt that you were twisting through seven sons of gold and the gypsy was insisting |
| 0:10.1 | that his story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning |
| 0:19.1 | that you might be a treasure. |
| 0:22.5 | I could touch but never hold. |
| 0:27.6 | Hello, everybody. |
| 0:29.5 | You're listening to the Soberfall podcast. |
| 0:32.5 | I'm Veronica Valley, and I am joined today by Randy Haverson. |
| 0:36.8 | Hi, Randy. |
| 0:39.9 | Hello. Thank you for having me on. I appreciate this. You're very welcome. I'm really interested to talk to you because I love the email that I got sent. |
| 0:45.9 | You've been sober for 42 years. Like that's... Coming up on 42. Yeah. How old were you when you |
| 0:51.6 | stopped drinking? 24 when I quit. Wow. |
| 0:55.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:56.0 | And I was either going to get sober or I was going to die. |
| 0:59.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:00.0 | So I think I made the right choice. |
| 1:02.0 | It's really interesting talking to someone who's really spent pretty much their adulthood, right? |
| 1:07.0 | Mm-hmm. |
| 1:08.0 | In the sobriety community. |
| 1:09.0 | What we're going to talk today is about the difference between sobriety |
| 1:13.0 | and being in recovery. I think you have some really interesting things to say about that, but I'd kind of |
| 1:17.9 | love to get a little bit more of your story first. Tell me about your drinking and why you had to |
| 1:23.3 | get sober at 24. Can you give us a little bit of background? Sure. Yeah. I always felt like the |
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