The following is a conversation with Bosch Graszenkarra.

He's a democratic socialist, a political writer,

founding editor of Jacobin, President of the Nation,

former vice chair of the Democratic Socialist of America,

and the author of the Socialist Manifesto,

the case for radical politics, and an era of extreme inequality.

As a side note, let me say that this conversation with Bosch Graszenkarra,

who's a brilliant socialist writer and philosopher,

represents what I hope to do with this podcast.

I hope to talk to the left and the right,

to the far left and the far right,

always with the goal of presenting and understanding

both the strongest interpretation of their ideas

and valuable thought-provoking arguments against those ideas.

Also, I hope to understand the human being behind the ideas.

I trust in your intelligence as the listener to use the ideas you hear,

to help you learn, to think, to empathize, and to make up your mind.

I will often fall short in pushing back too hard,

or not pushing back enough, of not bringing up topics I should have,

of talking too much, of interrupting too much,

or maybe sometimes in the rare cases not enough,

of being too silly on a serious topic,

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