The following is a conversation with Natalie Cabral, an astrobiologist and scientist at the

SETI Institute, directing the Carl Sagan Center for the Study of Life in the Universe.

She explores some of the harshest places on Earth, including freediving and volcanic

lakes, all in the pursuit of understanding living organisms beyond Earth.

For this, she holds the woman's world record for diving at altitude, both scuba and

freediving.

She's amazing!

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