Hey there you're listening to the Lazy Genius Podcast. I'm Kendra Adachi and I'm here to help

you be a genius about the things that matter and lazy about the things that don't.

Today is a very exciting episode. I am joined by the author of the global bestseller,

Atomic Habits, James Clear.

I am no stranger to self-help books.

I've read enough to fill a mobile library.

Most self-help books over the years they have left me

wanting, leaving me feeling like I've just been given more to do, you know?

That's one of the reasons I wrote the Lazy Genius Way in 2020.

But when I read Atomic Habits for the first time

in January of 2019, a few months after it released,

I remember saying out loud to myself,

like, I think this is the best self-help book I've ever read.

Now, that is not surprising information because this book has

sold 15 million copies at this point which is a lot of books. It just lives on the

New York Times Best Seller list like all the time it's really something and yet if you're listening you might

have a funky relationship with habits or at least a funky idea of what they're for.

So I'm legit excited about this conversation with the habit expert but make no mistake we want to live like lazy

geniuses we want to pursue the things that matter with kindness and compassion and smallness

and I wonder how that can happen in this context of habits so So let's find out. Here's my

conversation with James Clear. Your book is fabulous and I've read it multiple

times. Well, thank you. But I would I would love to talk to you about the difference between rhythms and habits.

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