There's still so much to be done in terms of going through all of his digital

information and that's going to take some time. You know, as the prosecutor, you

just never satisfied in your case. You really want to make sure your case is the

strongest. There's a high degree of probability that he will actually have

been committing crimes years even a decade before that.

Hello, and welcome to the best case worst case. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI

pro-File Reform and New York City prosecutor and writer producer of

Criminal Minds. And with me today is

Hi, everybody. It's Francie Hakes, former state and federal prosecutor and

executive producer of Audible's Invisible Life and Death on the reservation

Jim. We are very lucky because she's has agreed to come back again and finish

our conversation about the Gilgo Beach case. We have a very special returning

guest and she is. Kathleen Canning-Mello. Thanks so much for inviting me to this

show. It's a fascinating case. I'm really looking forward to discussing it with

you. And Kathy, just remind our listeners about your background. Oh, retired

FBI agent with more than three decades of service. By the time I retired and Jim

and I had the good fortune of working in the behavioral analysis unit

together. And we had such an amazing 10 years for me in that unit. So I'm happy

to still be working with you. Yeah. Me too, Kathy. Thanks. It's great to see you.

So we're going to jump right back in to our discussion on the Gilgo Beach

murders. So Kathy, what's your impression? I mean, they have charged this one

defendant with three murders so far and they charge them with first degree

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