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Getting those guys to believe.

And look what he did in a year.

He won, I don't know, seven games, eight games, nine games. in a year he won I don't know seven seven games eight games

nine games then you second year he won 10 11 12 games now he comes back and wins like 13 14

games like it's it's how we think man champions think differently and I love that like

what even yourself you just said it champions we think differently man we're we're different

breathe welcome to episode 346 of the general podcast what can i say well you know exactly what i can

say and what i will say i am pumped to be here because this is where I come to

stretch out and have quality conversations with people that I have not spoken to in a minute,

have never spoken to, or can't speak to like this on our daily program.

This is why I love doing this podcast, why I've done it for several years, and why I plan

on doing it for several more.

It is the art of the conversation. And this right here is another tremendous conversation with one

of the best players and most interesting cats you are ever going to hear from. A former NFL

cornerback who played 13 years in the league, 12 with the Bears, one with the Panthers.

He played in Super Bowl 41 with the Bears in 07, Super Bowl 50 with the Panthers in 2016.

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