#343 You Train Hard, But Your Diet is KILLING Gains! (NFL Coach's Insight) | John Heck
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🗓️ 22 April 2025
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We welcome John Heck to this episode of Dave Tate's Table Talk Podcast!
John Heck is a former 2x All-ACC offensive tackle at the University of North Carolina, with a strong background in powerlifting and strongman. He spent over a decade in football strength and conditioning at both the NFL and Division I levels, developing athletes to perform at the highest level.
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| 0:00.0 | People are chasing that 100%. I don't think they're ever going to find it in anything. But that may dictate where that discipline and focus is going to be. In the NFL, as a strength coach, you are not a culture center. You're not an authority figure. You're not a disciplinarian. You are pretty much exclusively there to train the guys. If you just dialed in your nutrition, that would probably add years to your career. Not only would |
| 0:20.8 | they transform their physique, add more muscle, it'd benefit them from a recovery standpoint. |
| 0:25.8 | It's time to sit down, keep it real, and cut the bullshit. |
| 0:38.3 | Welcome to Table Talk. |
| 0:40.3 | All right guys, we're back with another episode of Table Talk. |
| 0:43.3 | Today, my guest is John Heck. |
| 0:45.3 | I'm going to abbreviate this because we're going to go over your timeline quite a bit. |
| 0:49.3 | Yes, sir. |
| 0:50.3 | Former Division I player, basically football was your life for, well well we'll talk about that too up until a |
| 0:55.8 | couple years ago yeah former player then strength coach and for NFL NCAA I'm sure you've worked |
| 1:05.6 | with some high school kids here and there so from the standpoint of the strength and conditioning coach, you've basically |
| 1:12.0 | worked with everybody across the spectrum and power lifting, strong man as well. |
| 1:20.4 | A little bit of, I don't want to say body building, but training kind of as that. So the |
| 1:26.7 | realm of your training is kind of across all spectrums. I've got intentions to step on stage this year. So at that point, I can officially add bodybuilding to the resume? But can you? Because like one time, it's like a power lifter. If they did it one time, they power lifted. Yeah. Twice they're the power lifter. No, that's a good point. |
| 1:46.0 | That's a good point. |
| 1:47.0 | I will have competed in a bodybuilding show by the end of the year. |
| 1:51.0 | Before we get going, I got a gift for you. |
| 1:54.0 | Oh. |
| 1:55.0 | Go ahead and pop that open. |
| 1:57.0 | Yes, sir. |
| 1:58.0 | There's a shirt in there, which we hope shall fit. |
| 2:01.8 | It's a 3X. |
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