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The Alisa Childers Podcast

#342 Gender Isn't a Spectrum...It's God's Design, with Dr. Jeff Myers & Dr. Kathy Koch

The Alisa Childers Podcast

Alisa Childers

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality

4.85K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Gender isn’t something we “become,” it’s a good gift from God. In this episode, Alisa talks with Dr. Jeff Meyer (Summit Ministries) and Dr. Kathy Cook (Celebrate Kids) about helping kids understand male and female as part of God’s design, without reducing them to stereotypes. We tackle what today’s teens are really asking (“Is God good?”), how social media fuels confusion, practical ways parents and grandparents can talk with kids at every age, and why saying “no” to social transition can be a life-giving act of love. Jeff and Kathy share conversation starters, red-flag behaviors to watch for, and a hopeful vision of how men and women harmonize for the good of the family and the world.In this episode:Gender as design vs. stereotypeSocial media, rapid-onset confusion, and wise boundariesAge-appropriate scripts for tough questionsWhen boys want dresses & girls want buzz cuts—how to respondGenesis 1–2, identity, and human flourishingBuilding homes where God’s voice is the loudestResources & links:Get the book Raising Gender-Confident Kids free: genderconfidentkids.comUpdates: Alisa shares sabbatical plans, Unshaken Faith Christmas livestream, studio move, and a preview of upcoming episodes on critical thinking and cultural discernment.------------------------------------------------------------------This video is sponsored by:RANGE LEATHERAmerican-Made Craftsmanship from WyomingGo to www.rangeleather.com for more informationUse my code: ALISASUMMITGive your kids a stronger foundation to embrace a biblical worldview.Go to www.summit.org for more informationUse my code: ALISA26BRAVE BOOKSEntertainment that Engages the Imagination for Good. Go to www.bravebooks.com/childers for more informationUse my code: CHILDERS--------------------------------------------------------------------To Purchase the new CD, “Beauty from the Ash”, go to www.alisachilders.com/musicThere you can get the CD, backing tracks, string charts, rhythm charts and stems.Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/alisachildersTo order “Another Gospel”: www.alisachilders.com/another-gospel/To order “Live Your Truth": www.alisachilders.com/live-your-truth-and-other-lies/To order “The Deconstruction of Christianity”: https://alisachilders.com/the-deconstruction-of-christianity/For Alisa's Merch: https://alisachilders.creator-spring.comTo see what gear Alisa uses to record her podcast, go to:https://kit.co/alisachildersPotential Sponsors: https://alisachilders.com/sponsor-request-form/Product links are affiliate links which means if you buy something we'll receive a small commission.

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gender isn't something you have to become. It's something that God gives you as part of his good design.

0:06.4

And most of the young adults we work with, they aren't questioning whether God exists. What they're

0:10.9

questioning is whether God is good. And that goes back to the same lie that the serpent told Eve in the garden.

0:17.7

You know, is God really good? I mean, he's not going to let you eat of all of the

0:21.6

trees. It just changed the, changed Eve's perspective on God's goodness. And I think that's

0:28.1

what's happening in the culture today. So it really does fall to parents and grandparents to help

0:33.6

correct that. And I affirm what Kathy is saying about stereotypes. If you could just set

0:39.1

aside the stereotypes that culture says about Barbie or GI Joe, then so much of this problem

0:46.1

goes away because we realize gender isn't a spectrum. Hey, everyone. Welcome to the show. This is Alisa Childers. This is the Elisa Childers. This is the Elisa Childers podcast. And I have a great conversation for you today with Dr. Jeff Meyer and Dr. Kathy Cook. Together, they have written a book called Raising Gender Confident Kids. And I know for so many

1:13.3

Christian parents out there, that is a deep concern, especially in today's culture. Before we get to

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that conversation, I want to let you know that today's episode is brought to you by Brave Books.

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I love Brave Books. They are a Christian Children's Entertainment Company.

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They produce tons of books. They have a streaming platform. You can go to Bravebooks.com slash

1:33.2

Childers and use the code Chilters for 20% off your order. All right, I have a lot to tell you about

1:39.0

today's conversation. But before we get there, I just want to give you a few updates.

1:43.1

I hope everybody is kind of settling into the end of fall.

1:47.6

I just drove over here to the studio today, and the colors of fall are in absolute full,

1:54.0

beautiful blooming glory here in the Tennessee countryside.

1:57.5

I saw so many beautiful colors, and I tell you, it's just one of my favorite

2:01.8

times of the year. Thanksgiving is my personal favorite holiday, even more than Christmas, I think.

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I love Thanksgiving. I just love the food. I love the changing of the seasons, that feeling of

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things just kind of settling down. We have a little five-acre homestead, and we have some bees

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