#341 Men and Women Are Not the Same (and That’s Good!) with Denny Burk
The Alisa Childers Podcast
Alisa Childers
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🗓️ 6 November 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
What does Scripture really say about being male and female, and how did the “Nashville Statement” become a line in the sand? Today I’m joined by Dr. Denny Burk (Boyce College/SBTS; President of CBMW; author of What Is the Meaning of Sex?) for a clear and candid conversation on complementarianism, feminism, the church’s drift on sex and gender, and why Scripture is our standard. We trace how reactions to the Nashville Statement helped catalyze Side B/Revoice, talk through what the Bible means by manhood and womanhood (and why that’s good news), and offer hope to parents with deconstructed kids.
In this episode
Complementarianism vs. egalitarianism...why it matters for the home and the church
The Nashville Statement: what it is, why it exploded, and what came next
“Side B,” identity labels, and building your identity on Christ rather than fallen desires
How progressive readings reinterpret Scripture—and how to respond
The beauty of sexual difference and the goodness of God’s design
Real encouragement and testimonies for parents of prodigals/deconstructed kids
Resources & links:
The Nashville Statement (CBMW) – cbmw.org
Denny’s writing – dennyburk.com
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| 0:00.0 | This is going to be controversial, but I'm going to say it anyway. |
| 0:02.3 | But I just saw a video this week that was going around on the internet. |
| 0:06.6 | And it was two female police officers who were struggling with a 140 pound man. |
| 0:13.9 | And they could not subdue him until... |
| 0:15.8 | He was wearing them like bracelets. |
| 0:18.0 | He was just walking around with them hanging on his arms like he had |
| 0:21.6 | bracelets on. It was just ridiculous. Right. And listen, God bless them, I don't wish any ill |
| 0:27.9 | to them. I'm just saying that you've got ideologies basically dictating to people that |
| 0:34.4 | women can do the same thing men can when they're wearing a police uniform. |
| 0:38.8 | It's just not true. |
| 0:53.2 | Hey, everyone. Welcome to the Alisa Childers podcast. I'm Alisa Childers, and I have a great conversation for you today. Actually, I learned a lot in this conversation. This is a guest I've wanted to have on the show for quite a while. In fact, I have been following Denny Burke for many, many years, way back in the day when I first started encountering progressive Christian blogs. And even back then, before people were really |
| 1:12.1 | calling themselves progressive Christians, I would see articles written by people like Jen Hatmaker |
| 1:17.6 | and Sarah Bessie and Rachel Held Evans. And I found it to be very confusing because there really |
| 1:23.8 | weren't a lot of people out there who were addressing the ideas of those women in |
| 1:28.1 | particular head on, except for Denny Burke. I stumbled across his blog one day, and I thought, |
| 1:33.8 | somebody's talking about this, and it was so helpful to me. So I'm excited to bring this |
| 1:38.5 | conversation to you because we covered so many topics. We covered egalitarianism versus |
| 1:44.0 | complementarianism and feminism. We talked about |
| 1:47.3 | the Nashville statement. I remember when the Nashville statement came out. And what I was totally |
| 1:52.0 | unaware of is that it was the Nashville statement, or I should say the reaction against the |
| 1:56.7 | Nashville statement, that led to Side B theology. I did not know that. So I learned so much in this |
| 2:01.9 | conversation today, and I know that you will too. I did want to say a few words about stuff that's |
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