#340 - The Vatican, Demons & CREEPIEST Pastor in America | Religion Business

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Julian Dorey

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🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 204 minutes

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PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Nathan Apffel and Chris Ayoub are the creators of The Religion Business, a multi-part docuseries exposing the financial practices and lack of accountability in Western religion. Beyond filmmaking, Apffel and Ayoub are building tech-driven solutions to push for transparency, ethical governance, and redirecting resources toward real issues like poverty and homelessness. RELIGION BUSINESS LINKS: The Religion Business Website - https://www.thereligionbusiness.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/nathan_apffel/# IG: https://www.instagram.com/religionbusiness YT: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkynle-j4cDBB-5_bAp81mQ FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 00:00 - Intro 01:13 – Tommy G, Religion Business, Nate’s Accident, $1 Trillion Christianity, Daughter’s Birth 10:00 – Chris Intro, Christianity, Institutions, Saints Built Orphanages, Can It Stay Pure? 20:43 – Cyclical, Gateway Church, Secular vs Religious Nonprofits, 14 Points, Hells Angels, IRS 30:48 – Scientology, Vatican, Good Intentions to Hell, Tithing, Middle Man, Matthew 25 43:20 – Gift Giving, Transparency, Senator Hatfield, ECFA, Mailers = Money 50:12 – Kenneth Copeland, MLM?, Fear Engine, Mega Pastors Opposite of Jesus 01:01:54 – Blessing?, Mosaic Laws, Leviticus, Black Israelites, Churches as Enterprises 01:10:33 – Clergy Demoralized, Buildings, Parishes, YOU Are the Temple 01:22:20 – Faith in Faith, Mega Pastors, Ignorance, Only 13% Read Bible, Chris Reads as History 01:31:33 – Fooled by Pastors, Self-Focus, Military, Quitting Drinking, Hero Journey = Jesus 01:39:33 – Civilian Life, Missing Danger, Holy Spirit, Everything on the Altar 01:47:01 – Not a Poor Gospel, Parables vs Exceptions, Read Genesis to Revelation 01:51:34 – Socialism, Communism, Republic, Capitalism, Christ’s Social Message, Tribe 01:59:47 – Demons, Stardust, S3xual Energy Transfer, Angels, Humility 02:09:01 – Atheist vs Christian, CIA, 14 Points Control, Religion + Politics = Death Rattle 02:19:21 – Christianity & Gov, Moral Authority, Islam vs Christianity, Johnson Amendment 02:25:00 – Johnson Amendment, Netanyahu, Religion + Politics, Abdication, Read Bible 02:35:00 – Paying Congregation?, No Full-Time Pastors, Traditions as Doctrine 02:39:58 – Charlie Kirk Shot, No Hope, Religion Online, Baby Christians, Revival? 02:52:20 – Murder Charlotte, Beast Train, Hate & Homelessness, Tommy G, Copeland Recap 03:05:37 – Copeland $700M, Debate Pastors, Cayman Drops, Religion Business Beginning 03:16:25 – Christ & Truth Arbiter CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ - In-Studio Producer: Joey Deef - https://www.instagram.com/joeydeef/ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 340 - Religion Business Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:10.0	Ten commandments. Don't take the Lord's name in vain.
1:46.7	Copeland, he promised to build six things. A ministry building, his radio station, is TV network, a hotel, and then an elderly retirement community. So he raised tens of millions dollars through these mailers. We went to the city and we found nothing. I would call Kenneth a product. And the big thing is, is estimated to be worth $750 million. Yeah, all in the name of Jesus. And how do you do that? You instill a tremendous amount of fear in them. You're going to be removed from God's list of children if you don't tithe. You give to me because I am prosperous, which will make you prosper. And if you don't give enough, it's because you've got to give more. That is a dark web of a mess. I'll tell you right now, we get evidence dumped on a state.
1:50.2	We've got stories of gun running from the Middle East on private jets.
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