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#339 - Anti-Spy Phone CEO Responds to Israel Link Allegations & Exposes Apple’s Cult | Joe Weil

Julian Dorey Podcast

Julian Dorey

Comedy

4.6909 Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2025

⏱️ 201 minutes

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PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/JulianDorey (***TIMESTAMPS in description below) ~ Joe Weil is the CEO of Unplugged, a privacy-first tech company building tools like the UP Phone to give users full control over their digital lives. He previously worked on special projects for Apple Services and now leads Unplugged’s growth and product strategy. JOE's LINKS: - UNPLUGGED PHONE: https://unplugged.com/products/up-phone - IG: https://www.instagram.com/weare_unplugged/ FOLLOW JULIAN DOREY INSTAGRAM (Podcast): https://www.instagram.com/juliandoreypodcast/ INSTAGRAM (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/julianddorey/ X: https://twitter.com/julianddorey JULIAN YT CHANNELS - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Clips YT: https://www.youtube.com/@juliandoreyclips - SUBSCRIBE to Julian Dorey Daily YT: https://www.youtube.com/@JulianDoreyDaily - SUBSCRIBE to Best of JDP: https://www.youtube.com/@bestofJDP ****TIMESTAMPS**** 00:00 - Intro 00:54 - Back Door, iPhone Boom, Ad Overload, Apple + Google, Change It 09:54 - Fixing Youth, UpPhone Time Away, Apple Roots, Sobriety, Living Script 30:54 - Miracle, Rehab, Sobriety, Becoming Christian, Saw Jesus 39:54 - Childhood Abuse, God Before Rock Bottom, Idols, Miracle Factory 49:54 - Vulnerability, Recovery, Imposter Syndrome, Losing Father 59:54 - Labels, Day 1 at Apple, Values-Driven, 10 Years at Apple 01:09:54 - Demo Culture, Ideation, COVID Rethink, Politics at Apple 01:18:54 - Censorship, Leaving Republic, Elon & Twitter, Founders Warning 01:27:54 - Privacy, Data Harvesting, 210K Packets, Better Products 01:42:54 - Apple & Third-Party Tracking, Erik Prince, Israel Concerns, Ads Boom 01:53:54 - Byron Tau, Pegasus, Kill Switch, Data Wipe 02:05:54 - Nothing Impenetrable, UpPhone Experience, Open Source, Deindustrialization 02:15:54 - Assembly in America, $100 Loss Worth It 02:23:54 - CCP Scrutiny, Apple in China, Blurred Platforms 02:38:54 - Innovate, Apple Grave Digging, Tim Cook, Ad Cartel 02:49:54 - Be Ready, Unrestricted Warfare, Consumer Decisions, Ad Data Deck 02:59:54 - Tradeoff, AI in Harvesting, Real vs Fake, Research Aid 03:09:54 - AI Relationships, LLM Risks, Catastrophes & Inventions 03:15:04 - Joe's work CREDITS: - Host, Editor & Producer: Julian Dorey - COO, Producer & Editor: Alessi Allaman - https://www.youtube.com/@UCyLKzv5fKxGmVQg3cMJJzyQ - In-Studio Producer: Joey Deef - https://www.instagram.com/joeydeef/ Julian Dorey Podcast Episode 339 - Joe Weil Music by Artlist.io Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:13.8

2010, our screen time might have been like three and a half hours a day. Today, the average screen time is well over seven plus hours, and people are seeing 12,000 ads a day. I just want to get some background on Joe, because you are coming from the belly of the beast. The guy who sort of brought me in, one of the OG guys, he goes, you know, I just want to prepare you. People have this image of Apple from our advertising and marketing. I just didn't get to know it is nothing like that at all. If it's a female and they've seen a high incidence of deleted selfies, that indicates like a low self-image and they might be a good target for a specific type of yeah but i mean that's crazy right

1:45.5

this is a way to do social studies with it how do we change these big things the unplugged thumb

1:50.1

first the experience hey guys if you're not following me on spotify please hit that follow

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button and leave a five-star review they're both a huge huge help thank you all right how you bugging us at home what are you

2:12.8

doing to us i'm skeptical here literally nothing then we don't need to we don't need to

2:17.3

bug anyone that's exactly

2:18.3

what the villain says at the beginning of the movie's like we're not doing anything wrong and then

2:21.6

Jurassic park blows up yeah that's that yeah i get that people definitely have this fear like

2:27.4

um you know is there some back door into this or something like that which is understandable right

2:32.3

yeah you have to get it i mean we've all watched the last 10 years unfold.

2:36.5

It's like one thing after another. And for you, it's like really watching the last 20, if we're just talking about tech. Yes. And what's happened? You were around for, you know, the post at Apple. We're going to talk about that today. but for the post iPhone boom where it becomes the center of the world effectively.

2:52.0

And you've seen the power from literally from we're going to talk about that today, but for the post iPhone boom, where it becomes the center of the world effectively,

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