One day it just seemed everyone was in the acid house and brave music literally overnight. The sort of big thing for us was going to Kings Cross and doing Bagley's. How did it's quality on that? I think it's only now thinking back we appreciate what we did. Where did you actually start your music ventures? Yeah, when we started 19 years of age, we didn't know what we were doing, everything we was trying, something's made money, something's lost a lot of money. But those days were much more fun. Some of the characters involved in those days were shady, should we say. Have you ever been robbed of any money? Yeah, by the record distributors. I've known some of the big DJs you've had playing for you over the years. Slipmat, Mickey Finn, Armand Van Heleldon. Last year we had, Noel Gallagher. The riskiest job in the world is being a promoter for events. The amount of money you've got to put up in the hope that people are going to turn up. You couldn't sell it to a bank. No, no, definitely not. What's the most amount of money you've ever lost on the night? That would be when we did.

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Yeah, as you get older, you become more experienced and you get to a route of how you do things and what shouldn't be done. But I'd say I'm happy with what we chose. And where did you actually start your music, your music ventures? School, really? We got into sort of strange music, as it were, back in the mid-80s. Paul's brother went to America, brought back this mad stuff called Electro, which no one had heard of in our school. And we were like, yeah, this is really good. That sort of morphed into rap and hip-hop, and no one was into that, apart from us. And then Paul went off and sort of did some more conventional stuff, would you say,

like more bandy sort of music. I was still into the hip-hop. And then, so one day, it just seemed

everyone was in the acid house and rave music. Literally overnight, everyone in our school was

like, I'm going to a rave. Have you bought this record? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And we thought, oh, yeah, we like a bit of this.

What can we, how can we get involved?

You know, we looked up to DJs and ultimately promoters and thought, yeah, we fancy a bit of that.

So that was the sort of start of it, 17 years old, thinking, okay, what can we earn money? Can we have a laugh? Like most people do, you know, a lot of people start off young. It just seems to have lasted 30 or years later. We're still doing it. Yeah, we've done well to be lasted 30 or years. A lot of promoters out there have come and gone very quickly. How would you explain where you first started earning a pound note? Where were you? What were you doing? Was it parties? Was it the music? Was the record shops? Music originally. First thing we did made our first track in I'd say about 1992. Did it with a label called Brain Records in BZ Beach Studio. It was our first release.

That was really exciting, you know, getting 19 years of age.

Going to the pressing plants in, a bit of vinyl cut.

There's something electric about that and then sort of distributing it to artists and stuff.

Then we just started after one release or two releases on Brain.

We thought, well, we really want to grow this and start our own label.

You know, we've been entrepreneurial at 19.

So we started slamming vinyl and then we did our first release just on real cheap,

cheap, nasty computers.

Amiga 500s, I think they were.

You know, 500 quids with a studio kit back then.

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