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The History of Literature

337 Oscar Wilde, Ovid, and the Myth of Narcissus (with A. Natasha Joukovsky)

The History of Literature

Jacke Wilson

History, Arts, Books

4.6 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Debut novelist A. Natasha Joukovsky (The Portrait of a Mirror) joins Jacke for a discussion of Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray, Ovid's myth of Narcissus, the fascinating power of recursions, and a life lived in the worlds of literature, business, and art. THE PORTRAIT OF A MIRROR is a stunning reinvention of the myth of Narcissus as a modern novel of manners, about two young, well-heeled couples whose parallel lives intertwine over the course of a summer, by a sharp new voice in fiction. A. NATASHA JOUKOVSKY holds a BA in English from the University of Virginia and an MBA from New York University’s Stern School of Business. She spent five years in the art world, working at the Philadelphia Museum of Art and The Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York before pivoting into management consulting. The Portrait of a Mirror is her debut novel. She lives in Washington, D.C. In gratitude to Natasha for appearing on The History of Literature Podcast, a donation has been made to the LGBTQ Freedom Fund (lgbtqfund.org). Help support the show at patreon.com/literature or historyofliterature.com/shop. (We appreciate it!) Find out more at historyofliterature.com, jackewilson.com, or by following Jacke and Mike on Twitter at @thejackewilson and @literatureSC. Or send an email to jackewilsonauthor@gmail.com. New!!! Looking for an easy to way to buy Jacke a coffee? Now you can at paypal.me/jackewilson. Your generosity is much appreciated! The History of Literature Podcast is a member of Lit Hub Radio and the Podglomerate Network. Learn more at www.thepodglomerate.com/historyofliterature.   *** This show is a part of the Podglomerate network, a company that produces, distributes, and monetizes podcasts. We encourage you to visit the website and sign up for our newsletter for more information about our shows, launches, and events. For more information on how The Podglomerate treats data, please see our Privacy Policy.  Since you're listening to The History of Literature, we'd like to suggest you also try other Podglomerate shows surrounding literature, history, and storytelling like Storybound, Micheaux Mission, and The History of Standup. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello, we're joined today by a debut novelist whose new book The Portrait of a Mirror retells

0:44.9

the myth of Narcissus with a healthy dose of Oscar Wilde. She's here to talk about her

0:50.5

background, her career, her work in the field of recursions, Wilde's picture of Dorian

0:56.3

Gray, Ovid, and how art, immortality, narcissism, relationships, and selfies all intermingle.

1:04.6

Buckle your seatbelts and adjust the mirrors. Natasha Zhukovsky, today on The History of Literature.

1:20.5

Okay, here we go. Hello, everyone. It is Jack Wilson. It is. I am Jack. It is I. Tis I. Jack

1:36.8

Wilson, you're lovable, lung-head, although lovable might be my word, not yours. Lung-head certainly

1:44.6

is your word as we heard last time. Lung-head, loley lung-head. I actually got an email on this.

1:53.0

From listener R, dear Jack, it said I'm paraphrasing. Dear Jack, a lung-head isn't the right word

2:00.0

for you, but the Germans have a word. Well, of course they do Germans. That's become a cliche,

2:06.6

hasn't it? I'm sure there's a word in German for this. That's what we say in English.

2:13.2

In our jealousy, our envy of the German language for smashing all those words together and coming

2:21.8

up with some word. I think there's a word in German for this, and then we hear there's a word in

2:28.0

German that's about five words all put together like, I don't know, you might say, oh, that's so

2:35.7

poignant. Look at this stuffed animal that has only one eye. And someone says, I bet the Germans

2:43.8

have a word for that, and it turns out they do. The word turns out to be something like

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