Hello everyone. I have the opportunity today to speak with one of Florida's leading troublemakers.

You might say Christopher Rufo and he's been working on the education front in Florida

and I want to play the role of friendly enemy today because I'm very interested in what's

happening in Florida concerned as I am about the state of education in general in the

West, North America, Canada, US, and also more specifically with regard to higher education.

And so I've been watching the goings on in Florida with great amount of interest and I have

a lot of questions and I'm going to try to push Mr. Rufo, Chris as hard as I can today

in a friendly manner because I want to get to the bottom of all of this to the degree

that that's possible and I'm certainly seeing excesses on the leftist radical side with

regards to the reformulation of the education system and as far as I'm concerned something

needs to be done about that but that's complicated and it's hard to do something about it without

falling prey to potential excesses on the more conservative and traditionalist sides.

We're going to hash that out today at least that's my plan so welcome Chris it's good

of you to agree to talk to me today and I'm really looking forward to this.

Yeah likewise it's a pleasure and an honor to be with you and look forward to the conversation.

So let's start out by giving some people information about your background and you kind

of sprang onto the scene at least in so far as I was concerned just a couple of years

ago when you started really what would you say pushing back against the DEI activists

on the education front and now you seem to be pretty and takeerly involved in governor

desantis of Florida's what would you say strategic moves forward on the education reform

front and so let's start with a bit of description about your background and how you came about

doing what you are doing and what you're doing as well.

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