Hello, everyone. I have the privilege today of talking to Dr. J. Botticaria, who's been a very effective

spokesman on the pandemic front during the COVID-19 crisis, both imaginary and real. Dr. Botticaria

has fought in the public domain to bring accurate information about the pandemic and the

potential negative consequences of lockdowns and other COVID-19 interventions to widespread

public attention. He is a professor and researcher specializing in the economics of health care.

Botticaria received all four of his degrees, an MA, an MD, and a PhD in economics from Stanford

University. He is currently the director of Stanford Center for Demography and Economics of Health

and Aging. Botticaria came under severe fire during the COVID-19 pandemic, believing as he did

and publicly communicating that fact that mask mandates and forced lockdowns were a detriment

instead advocating for the development of herd immunity. He argued to allow the healthy

and low-risk individuals, the majority of people, to continue on with everyday life and work,

while providing protection for those most at risk. Only recently it was revealed through the

Twitter files that, among others, Dr. Botticaria was being purposefully silenced on mainstream media

platforms. Hello, Dr. Botticaria. I'm looking very much forward to this conversation today.

We met recently at Stanford Conference on Academic Freedom. That was the first time we met in

public. I'd been following what you'd been doing for a long time, but it was good to see you there,

and it's good to have this opportunity to talk through what's happened over the last three years,

especially, I would say, in light of the, well, the recent Cochran review, for example,

that indicated there's no evidence whatsoever that masks were effective in preventing or even

delaying the transmission of COVID-19. I've watched the usual apologists try to

win their way around that review, but the Cochran reviews are pretty damn reliable, and they're

conservative, too, in their claims are known for that. The Cochran reviews aren't going to come out

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