#334 Why Political and cultural Engagement Is Not a social Gospel, with Frank Turek

The Alisa Childers Podcast

Alisa Childers

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Spirituality

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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In this episode, Alisa Childers welcomes Frank Turek for a wide-ranging conversation about Christian political engagement, 3rd wayism, and the difference between faithful involvement and a political gospel.We reflect on the dangers of Christians retreating into neutrality under the guise of “3rd wayism,” and address the misconception that political engagement is the same as preaching a political or social gospel. Frank also shares about his brand-new children’s book on responsibility, offering insights into raising the next generation with wisdom and discernment.Finally, Frank opens up about how he’s doing in the wake of Charlie’s murder, giving listeners a glimpse into both his heart and his hope during this difficult season.------------------------------------------------------------------This video is sponsored by:GOOD RANCHERSAmerican Meat DeliveredGo to www.goodranchers.com/alisa for more information.Back to the Table: https://pitch.com/v/back-to-the-table-for-partners-t346uj Use my code: ALISASEVEN WEEKS COFFEETaste the Coffee that is Saving Lives.Go to www.sevenweekscoffee.com for more information.Use my code: ALISABRAVE BOOKSEntertainment that Engages the Imagination for Good. Go to www.bravebooks.com/childers for more informationUse my code: CHILDERS--------------------------------------------------------------------To Purchase the new CD, “Beauty from the Ash”, go to www.alisachilders.com/musicThere you can get the CD, backing tracks, string charts, rhythm charts and stems.Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/alisachildersTo order “Another Gospel”: www.alisachilders.com/another-gospel/To order “Live Your Truth": www.alisachilders.com/live-your-truth-and-other-lies/To order “The Deconstruction of Christianity”: https://alisachilders.com/the-deconstruction-of-christianity/For Alisa's Merch: https://alisachilders.creator-spring.comTo see what gear Alisa uses to record her podcast, go to:https://kit.co/alisachildersPotential Sponsors: https://alisachilders.com/sponsor-request-form/Product links are affiliate links which means if you buy something we'll receive a small commission.

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0:00.0	People like Russell Moore and David French and others would kind of think abortion is a nuanced issue.
0:10.0	Marriage is a nuanced issue.
0:11.5	In fact, of course, David French came out for same-sex marriage, and he's supposed to be a Christian, right?
0:16.2	But somehow vaccines, the Bible speaks clearly on.
0:19.9	And if you don't get a vaccine, you're not loving your
0:21.8	neighbor.
0:31.5	Well, hey, everyone. Welcome to the Elisa Childers podcast where it's always my goal to help
0:35.5	equip Christians to identify the core beliefs
0:37.6	of historic Christianity, discern its counterfeits, and proclaim the gospel with clarity,
0:42.6	kindness, and with truth.
0:43.6	And today's episode is very special to me because it features my ministry partner, colleague,
0:48.8	and good friend Frank Turich, many of my longtime listeners.
0:52.2	You already know about Frank.
0:53.0	You've actually been praying for Frank, but the whole world knows who Frank Turek is now because of his involvement with Charlie Kirk and the events of the last couple weeks. We're going to talk about all of that in a moment, but we're really here to talk about a children's book that Frank has just written with Brave Books, who, by the way, is the sponsor of today's podcast. So it's brought to you by Brave Books, which is a
1:11.6	Christian Children's Entertainment Company. And you can go to BraveBooks.com slash Childers for 20%
1:17.5	off your order. And we're going to talk a lot more about that in a moment. But today's episode,
1:22.4	like I said, is very special. If you're not familiar or aware, when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, Frank was with him
1:29.5	and even with him in the van on the way to the hospital, trying to resuscitate him and spoke at his
1:34.9	memorial, or I should say preached the gospel at his memorial and has been preaching the gospel
1:39.6	all over secular media news outlets. And so when he came on the show today, we just got off our call.
1:47.1	And he, I wanted to know, how is he processing all of this? How is he doing? How can we be
1:52.1	praying for him? So we asked all of those kinds of questions. What are we thinking about as we
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