334: People pleasing, sex, and Giles Brandreth, with Bryony Gordon
The Scummy Mummies Podcast
Ellie Gibson and Helen Thorn
4.7 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 21 April 2026
⏱️ 55 minutes
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Summary
How do you stop being a people pleaser? Is it wrong to pee in the shower? And how do you end up having a fight with Giles Brandreth? Helping us to answer all these questions is the brilliant Bryony Gordon.
Bryony tells us all about her new novel, People Pleaser, which is out on Thursday. Helen reveals how she learned to ask for what she wants, and Ellie explains how it has made their relationship stronger. We talk about the pros and cons of rawdogging your emotions, and whether you can be 80 per cent sober.
There's also a bit of chat about shagging, and of course Scummy Mummy Confessions, in which Helen manages to leave Bryony actively disgusted.
Follow Bryony on Instagram @bryonygordon. Her latest book is available to pre-order now.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, scumbags, this is the scummy mummies podcast, with your hosts, Ellie Gibson and Helen Thorne. |
| 0:16.7 | Hello and welcome to the Scummy Mummy's podcast. |
| 0:19.0 | It's me, Helen Thorne. |
| 0:19.8 | And it's me, Ellie Gibson. |
| 0:20.7 | Ellie, I'm delighted. I'm thrilled. That makes podcast. It's me, Helen Thorne. And it's me, Ellie Gibson. I'm delighted. |
| 0:21.6 | Are you? |
| 0:22.1 | I thrilled. |
| 0:22.7 | That makes a change. |
| 0:24.0 | Excuse me, I haven't said it's me, Brony Gordon. No, we're coming to that. We're going to welcome your wings to the builder. Oh, I just was like, we don't have long. I just wanted to get to it. And I'm Brianne Gordon. |
| 0:34.9 | I've written a book called People Pleaser. |
| 0:36.7 | It's available now. |
| 0:37.9 | It all good bookshops and are bad ones too. |
| 0:40.7 | Not that there are any bad ones. And I'm Brianne Gordon. I've written a book called People Pleaser. It's available now. |
| 0:37.9 | It's all good bookshops and are bad ones too. Not that there are any bad ones. And you should go and buy it. And shall we go now? Yes, yes. There's a really nice place around the corner that sells duck. Duck? Yeah. What do you mean? Like ducks to like... Eat. Oh. Yes, like a Chinese restaurant. |
| 0:54.7 | Yes, we were thinking we'd go there afterwards. |
| 0:57.4 | That does sound nice. Yeah, all right. Okay, good. Well, let's fucking crack on then. It's okay, good. Brianie Gordon's back on the podcast, everyone. She's one of our favorite people, slash guests, slash humans. And you've written a fucking excellent novel. And this is your first novel. You've written some Sunday Times best-selling non-fiction books. Yeah, but we're going to hope that this is some Sunday Times best-selling fiction. I've got a good feeling about this one. This is really exciting. And it's called people pleaser. Yeah. Let's let's get into |
| 1:28.2 | it, Brianne. Okay. Why did you write this book? Well, come on. How much money did you get? |
| 1:34.3 | So, so I wrote this book because, well, I wanted to, people pleasing is at the root of all of my |
| 1:41.6 | problems, basically. Is it not the root of all of our problems? |
| 1:45.0 | And some people aren't people pleases, but I am. |
| 1:48.0 | I am a people fucker offerer. |
| 1:49.7 | Yeah, you're the... |
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