333 - John Vervaeke, DC Schindler, Ken Lowry - The Ontology of Artificial Intelligence
The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau
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🗓️ 9 March 2024
⏱️ 119 minutes
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John Vervaeke’s video essay that prompted this discussion:
John Vervaeke - AI: The Coming Thresholds and The Path We Must Take | Internationally Acclaimed Cognitive Scientist: https://youtu.be/A-_RdKiDbz4?si=K3SUnyrA1ywedRzf
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| 0:00.0 | This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world. All right. |
| 0:27.1 | This discussion is going to be oriented towards AI generally and the large language models. |
| 0:35.3 | I take there to be a distinction there. |
| 0:37.4 | Maybe John, you can talk about that a little bit as we get going here. |
| 0:41.7 | But just to position ourselves generally at the outset, |
| 0:46.1 | context for this conversation will be John's video essay about AI. |
| 0:52.1 | This came out nine months ago, 10 months ago now? |
| 0:55.8 | I think it came out last April or something. |
| 0:58.8 | Yeah. |
| 0:59.6 | Yeah, so almost, yeah, 10 months ago, I think. |
| 1:03.5 | Okay, okay, perfect. |
| 1:04.4 | Which is great because it gave evidence for my claim that many of the predictions were |
| 1:09.1 | premature. |
| 1:11.4 | Perfect, yeah. Yeah, so in order to sort of. evidenced for my claim that many of the predictions were premature. Perfect. |
| 1:12.2 | Yeah. |
| 1:13.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:13.9 | So in order to sort of set the framing here, we'll start off with John sharing a little bit |
| 1:18.8 | sort of an overview of what the arguments in that essay were. |
| 1:22.5 | And then we'll move to Jonathan if you want to sort of position yourself in relation to AI generally. |
| 1:29.8 | And then John's essay in particular. |
| 1:33.0 | And then same for David. |
| 1:34.6 | And then from there, we can just sort of get going and see what comes out. |
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