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🗓️ 28 April 2023
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Jim discusses the recent developments in the Utah murder case
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| 0:00.0 | Putting a witness through that kind of interrogation on the stand, just for fishing purposes, |
| 0:11.9 | in other words, they have no showing a proof that she actually does have exculpatory information. |
| 0:30.2 | Hello, and welcome to Best Case, worst case. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler |
| 0:42.2 | former New York City prosecutor and writer producer of Criminal Minds. And with me today is no one |
| 0:48.6 | actually, I'm alone. This is me getting an opportunity because Francis outgel |
| 0:55.0 | she's doing something really exciting and she'll tell you about it sometime soon, but it is a |
| 1:01.3 | super secret mission right now. So she's having fun doing her thing and I am here to talk to |
| 1:08.7 | all of you. And she would say you all or y'all or something or all y'all, but no, I say all of you |
| 1:18.2 | because I think that's proper English and not Southern ease or whatever the hell it is that they |
| 1:23.6 | speak in Atlanta, Georgia. But as Francis away, I wanted to talk about a few things that are |
| 1:30.8 | going on. We'll start off with the Idaho case. In the Idaho case, and I don't say the name of the |
| 1:38.9 | offender because I don't speak the names of mess merers on any kind of media. I don't believe |
| 1:46.8 | that is a good thing to do. And so I'm going to continue doing that. But in my scale, Idaho, |
| 1:54.0 | or students were murdered, Madison, Mogen, Kaylee, Gang, Salves, |
| 2:01.9 | Sanana, Cernodal, and Ethan, Chapin, hope I pronounced their names right. But on November 13th of |
| 2:09.2 | last year, 2022, they were all brutally murdered. And that is the focus and should be the focus |
| 2:19.6 | of this case. Unfortunately, there's a lot of other things that are being focused on. |
| 2:27.0 | And well, I don't think that's actually how it should be. The fact is that recently, this week, |
| 2:38.1 | they published in the news that one of the surviving roommates was actually subpoenaed |
| 2:48.8 | to appear in a preliminary hearing. The defense wants to call her as a witness |
| 2:58.0 | because they say, quote, she may have exculpatory evidence. Now we all may be aware that |
| 3:06.7 | exculpatory evidence would be evidence that tends to disprove the guilt or prove the innocence |
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