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Grumpy old geeks, a weekly talk show hosted by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFilippo

discussing the finer points of what went wrong on the internet and who's to blame.

Welcome to Grumpy old geeks. I'm Jason DeFilippo.

And I'm Brian Schulmeister. Okay, that was an interesting singing songy. Hello, good morning to you.

I am attempting to force myself to be in a good mood and be positive.

It's been a particularly rough year. It's been a particularly rough month and this week has been

the cherry on the poop sandwich of this experience thus far. But yeah, so as we were recording

on Tuesday for the show that came out on Thursday, my phone started to blow up from people

that I hadn't heard from and quite some time. Basically, my Finn McCulls family, like locals and

people that worked currently and people that worked there in the past. And we found out that one

of the people that worked there in the past, it's funny because you were talking about the pre-Fab

Irish bars just on that show as well. And Finn's was never that. In fact, when they for it, well,

it's kind of become that. But when they started, they actually really, everybody that worked there

was Irish. They were on work, uh, work programs and brought over from Ireland. Uh, authentic.

Yeah, I was very authentic. And there's this one guy, Brian, that was kind of there from the

beginning. And he kind of, um, he basically, you know, mothered all these people as they came over

to show them the ropes about living here and working there. And unfortunately, he committed suicide.

Oh, man, that was very sad to hear. I hadn't seen and heard from him in quite a few years because he

left a, I went back to the UK quite a while ago. But it was, um, it was a bad news. And then yesterday,

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