Hello and welcome to Politics World Room with James Carvel and I am Al Hyde.

This week our guest is the former Secretary of Defense, the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency,

the former White House Chief of Sav,

and director of the Office of Management and Budget,

the great Leon Panetta.

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James, there are humongous stories this week.

Trump and HECS summoning top American flag officers from around the world to Quantico in In an unprecedented act, the Justice Department,

under orders from the president, indicts the former FBI director, and now the government is

shut down. Leon Panetta is a former Defense Secretary and CIA Director, a former White House

Budget Director and House Budget Committee Chair, and worked at the Justice Department as a former White House budget director and House Budget Committee Chair,

and worked at the Justice Department as well as White House Chief of Staff.

There is no one, no one, has qualified to talk about all this as Leon's Netta.

Leon, we are honored to have you here.

Let me start with that extraordinary meeting earlier this week. I thought the Trump

Higgs-S summoning 800 top military officers from around the globe to hear a rambling, partisan, offensive,

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