What's Louise from Team 4 Leo, and if you couldn't tell already, we love writers.

We love books.

We love the power of the written word.

And today, we're dipping back into the show archives to share some words of wisdom from

two of our guests who know the immense power of writing.

First up, you'll hear Marie Chat with Cole Schaefer, the copywriter author and poet

who infuses everything with the power of intrigue.

Then you'll hear Tina Wells talk about illuminating much-needed stories through writing.

Grab a pen and get ready to take some notes.

Here we go.

So, let's dive into some of the meat around this, because again, we've got so many creatives,

business owners, writers in our audience, and specifically when it comes to copywriting,

you know, I'm a big believer that no matter what you do in the world, that you have to

understand how to use words effectively, especially in the modern age.

If you want to inspire people to do something that you'd like them to do, that's both in

their best interest and yours.

It could be something as simple as saying yes to a dinner party.

It could be, you know, donating.

It could be a job interview.

There could be a million different things, even outside of just traditional sales.

What's the difference from your point of view between creative writing and copywriting and

why do you feel that it's so important that you make that distinction before you sit down

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