I'm Bob Crawford.

And I'm Ben Sawyer and this is the road to now.

Bob, how you feeling, man?

I feel pretty good.

I feel pretty good after the other day, you know, just so everybody knows, this is the second attempt at recording this episode.

The other day, Ben and I recorded

this episode. And it was comparable to one of Abraham Lincoln's famous hot letters.

So Lincoln would, and you can look this up, he would write a letter when he was all

ticked off and he wouldn't send it.

He would like put it in his drawer. And then he would, a couple days later, he would write a more

subdued, a letter that had more perspective on the issue. So anyway, this is our mild tempered

letter. We recorded a hot letter the other day that we just we just couldn't air it.

No, and I think what's great about that comparison, Bob, is that there is, we all have our own sentiments, right?

And we all, no matter what we do, find ourselves in situations where we are emotionally distraught,

where we're concerned about things. And that is okay as individuals.

But the question is, what is your job? What are you here to do? And Lincoln, it sounds to me like the

concept is, he got one letter to write as a person experiencing what he was going through. And the

second one was written as the president who had a job to do. And we have a job to do here today, Bob, and just to put everything in historical perspective.

And the two of us are sitting down because there have been so many issues that have been addressed with what's going on with the Trump administration.

And, you know, getting one person in to talk about all of them as an expert is hard, right?

And we wanted to cover a couple of them. So

today we want to reflect on those things and however we feel about them, our job is to put them

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