Hello, scumbags, this is the scummy mummies podcast, with your hosts, Ellie Gibson and Helen Thorne.

Hello and welcome to the scummy mummies podcast. It's me, Helen Thorne.

And it's me, Ellie Gibson. Oh, my God, Ellie. Oh, my heart is bursting.

Is it? Oh, I feel such love, such warmth. We have not only a friend on the podcast.

Yes. We have the most popular podcast guest on the Scummy Mummies of all time. It is, of course, Stephanie Douglas. Guess who's back? Popular. Back again. I'm going to be in a disappoint, though. That means that I put some pressure on. We should set the scene. If it sounds a bit different, like even more shit than usual, it might sound a bit like we're in a bathroom and we're sort of, we're at the

exchange in Twickenham. Yes, we're in a dance studio. Is it actually a dance studio? Yes, yes.

And we're here because we're doing a series of three shows and we thought, why not invite our

favourite, you know, our favourite guest, our most popular guests. Thank you. You know, because she lives near here. Yes, she's very convenient. Well, you have also invited me on other times and I felt so miserable. I mean, I can't come on the podcast because I felt like I had something to live up to. Oh. I don't feel as miserable now. Now you feel you have something to live for. Yeah. You can come. You can make it. Well, we're very grateful. I like that you described it as a series of shows, like a triptych. Like some sort of performance art over three nights. Yes. A residential. Yes. You're like Celine Dio. Yes. Yes. So that's why we sound a bit echo. And also, you might hear some creaky. Why is that, Helen? Well, we're both in a leather trouser, really. They both turn up in a leather. What, are yours brown? Minor chocolate pleather. Oh. Yes, for my pleather. They're both very nice, but they do make a bit of noise. Yeah. Are yours real leather?

Yeah.

Do you remember when we met up and I wore PVC trousers?

Yes, yes, yes.

You have to oil your inner thighs.

You have to put actual olive oil on it because otherwise they're so loud.

It's like, it's like you can't wear them without.

No, no. But you put oil on your inner thigh and then they just glide and they don't make a noise. So I don't even need to lube. Yeah, genuinely. I put them away once for a weekend away and I take a whole bottle olive oil to douse on my thighs. Sexy times. Do you still have those trousers?

Yeah.

Oh, do you still wear them? I haven't for a while. I like them. I like a leather trouser. And I like them. I remember now, they were very shiny. Your thighs looked like two beautiful obocheats. It's just shining. Really shiny. Yeah. No, it was a good look. That's why I wore these today because I, you know, when you're seeing a friend and you get influenced by, I was like to see Stephanie. She likes a leather trouser. And then Ellie must have had that thought too. I just, they were on the top of the pile of clothes. But let's say yes. I was thinking about Stephanie. You wanted to be stressed like me. I was thinking about you the whole time. Sure I was.

There's their trousers. Lever trousers. You welcome Suggs.

It's not listening. Suggles.

We should, we should explain at this point that your husband's name is Doug Douglas. Well, it's not, actually. But you do call him that. It's Mark. It's not as fun. I won't have it. But he's known as Doug. You guys call him Doug. Yes, yes, yes. But you call him Doug. Yeah. But then, but sometimes are, well, who is the other one? Who's Mark? Yeah. But so when they realise my surname is Doug, so he's called Doug Douglas. No, he's not. But has he ever thought of just going by his actual name to avoid confusion? No. It just catches on And he's Doug Dougie Douglas

I think we might start calling you, Steph, Stephanie

To be fair, you get called Gibbo

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