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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

326. Israel, Russia, China, Iran: The World in Conflict | Walter Russell Mead

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

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🗓️ 26 January 2023

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

Dr Jordan B Peterson and Walter Russell Mead cross continents in a broad discussion over world affairs. They go in-depth on the state of China’s totalitarian regime, Vladimir Putin's plans for the war with Ukraine, the growing unrest under Iran’s iron fist, the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine, and how a push for American optimism is necessary to best face these emboldened challengers on the world stage. Walter Russell Mead is a writer, professor, and academic, focusing his efforts on international policy and affairs. He is the James Clarke Chace Professor of Foreign Affairs and Humanities at Bard College and taught American foreign policy at Yale University. Mead has worked as a columnist for publications such as The Wall Street Journal and was editor at large for The American Interest. His books include “Mortal Splendor,” “Special Providence,” “Power, Terror, Peace and War,” “God and Gold,” and most recently “The Arc of a Covenant.”

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0:00.0

Hello everyone, I met Mr. Walter Russell Mead at a dinner party in Washington.

0:18.9

He's a prolific author and a columnist for the Wall Street Journal, a very astute commentator

0:23.8

on foreign affairs.

0:24.8

I'm talking to him today about the situation, the international situation in the world,

0:31.4

as experienced by the United States and its Western allies, let's say.

0:35.8

We're going to talk about Russia and China and Iran and Israel and Palestine, all the,

0:41.5

what would you call it?

0:43.2

Predictable villains.

0:44.9

So, Mr. Walter Russell Mead is a writer, professor and academic, focusing his efforts, as I

0:50.6

said, on international policy and foreign affairs.

0:53.5

He is the James Clark Chase professor of foreign affairs and humanities at Bard College and

0:58.3

taught US foreign policy at Yale.

1:01.2

Mead has worked as a columnist for publications such as the Wall Street Journal and was editor

1:06.0

at large for the American interest.

1:08.3

His books include Martel Splendor, Special Providence, Power, Terror, Peace and War, God

1:16.2

and Gold and most recently, 2022, the Ark of a Covenant.

1:22.0

So Mr. Mead, you've spent an awful lot of time thinking about foreign policy in very

1:28.8

many different aspects, not concentrating necessarily on any particular part of the

1:32.7

world, but taking as much as it's possible a relatively global view.

1:37.0

And so, maybe we could start our discussion by having you summarize what you think are

1:42.4

the most important, what are the most important issues that confronted the United States and

1:47.1

the Western world more generally on the foreign relations front in 2022.

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