Hello everyone, I have a guest today that I've wanted to talk to for a long time, Dr. Victor

Davis Hanson.

He is the Martin and Ili Anderson senior fellow at the Hoover Institution with his focus

in the Classics and Military History.

He's an accomplished academic professor and author.

He's taught at Stanford Hillsdale College, the U.S. Naval Academy and Pepperdine University.

His books, many of them, 26 I believe include The Second World Wars, The End of Sparta,

The Soul of Battle, Carnage and Culture, and the Case for Trump in 2019.

But I think we'll start today with a discussion about citizenship.

Just make a couple of comments.

One of the things I've noticed over the last, I suppose the span of my life really is that

during my lifetime, the word citizenship, seam or citizen seem to be replaced by the word

consumer, which I always thought was a bad replacement.

Given that citizen has this, it's got a stalwart and traditional and dignified connotation

that the word consumer seems to lack entirely.

Well, you wrote a whole book about citizenship recently and so I thought we might weave

our way through that.

And you contrast citizens with pre-citizens, the book by the way is called The Dying Citizen,

how progressive elites, tribalism and globalism are destroying the idea of America.

And you start that book off, well, first of all, decrying that destruction, but also contrasting

the modern idea of citizenship, of citizen with the pre-modern idea of, say, peasant or

resident or tribe.

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