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You Are Not Broken

324. Perimenopause is Real

You Are Not Broken

Kelly Casperson, MD

Medicine, Health & Fitness

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

🎙️ Episode 324: Perimenopause is Real—What You Need to Know with Jackie Piasta, WHNP-BC Perimenopause is real—and often misunderstood. In this episode, I sit down with women’s health nurse practitioner Jackie Piasta to unpack the truth about this critical (and neglected) phase of midlife. If you’ve been told “you’re too young” or “just tough it out,” this conversation will feel like the validation you’ve been missing. Jackie and I dive into what perimenopause really looks like—from migraines and mood swings to weight gain and disrupted sleep—and why these symptoms deserve real answers, not dismissal. We talk through what’s happening hormonally, why lab tests aren’t the gold standard, and how to shift from a “birth control” mindset to a hormone-optimization mindset in your 30s, 40s, and beyond. In this episode: Why perimenopause can start in your 30s—even with regular periods Common myths that keep women suffering in silence How to track symptoms and cycles instead of chasing lab results The role of hormonal birth control—and when it helps vs. masks symptoms How estradiol, progesterone, and vaginal hormones can support brain, sleep, and libido Supplements and newer options: magnesium, L-theanine, flibanserin, even topical CBD Real-world patient cases that show how individualized care changes lives Top takeaways: Perimenopause is a clinical diagnosis—there’s no perfect test. Hormonal fluctuations can cause real physical, emotional, and cognitive changes. Bone loss, lipid changes, and heart risks start before menopause. Progesterone is often underused but powerful for night sweats, anxiety, and sleep. SSRIs are not first-line for new-onset mood changes in perimenopause. Early intervention matters—don’t wait until menopause to get help. We also talk about newer birth control formulations, managing migraines, and what the research is showing us about how menopause impacts heart health and brain function. Spoiler: it’s not just about hot flashes. This episode is your permission slip to stop toughing it out and start asking for care that actually helps. 🔗 Referenced Studies & Resources: Brinton RD et al. Perimenopause as a neurological transition state. Nat Rev Endocrinol. 2015;11(7):393-405. Wu B et al. Trajectories of Blood Lipids Profile in Midlife Women. J Am Heart Assoc. 2023;12(22):e030388. SWAN Study: Lipid trajectory insights through the menopausal transition https://www.instagram.com/jackiep_gynnp https://www.mymonarchhealthco.com/ Want more honest, empowering conversations like this one?⁠Preorder my Next Book⁠ share this episode, and leave a review to help others find this important work. Let's stop leaving women out of the conversation—especially when it comes to sex, health, and healing. Listen to my Tedx Talk: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Why we need adult sex ed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Take my Adult Sex Ed Master Class:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠My Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in my sexual health and hormone clinic? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Waitlist is open⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about GennaMD by Solv Wellness, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gennaMD.com ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠for 20% off your first order. For an additional $5 off, use coupon code DRKELLY5. Providers can request patient education materials or samples at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠gennaMDHCP.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.   Thanks to our sponsor ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Midi Women's Health⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Designed by midlife experts, delivered by experienced clinicians, covered by insurance.Midi is the first virtual care clinic made exclusively for women 40+. Evidence-based treatments. Personalized midlife care.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.joinmidi.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the You Are Not Broken podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Kelly Casperson, a board-certified

0:09.8

jurologist, thought leader, and conversation starter on midlife living, hormones, and sexuality.

0:16.3

Enjoy the show. Perimenopause, what is it? Is it real? Does it exist? Is their treatment? Should everybody just be on birth control? That's what we're going to talk about today. Thank you so much for coming to the You're Not Broken podcast, Jackie. Oh, thanks so much for having me, Kelly. Tell us where you practice. Okay. Yeah, I practice in north of Atlanta in a town called Marietta.

0:38.7

And you're currently studying for your doctorate. Oh, yes. Yeah, I'm finishing that up.

0:43.1

So I did a really cool project where we integrated routine menopause care paradigm into primary care.

0:50.1

So I am in the process of finishing that up. I'll be done, God willing, in a couple of weeks.

0:54.9

Yeah.

0:55.2

Congratulations.

0:55.7

In a couple of weeks.

0:56.8

Thank you.

0:57.7

So how did you get into the perimenopause talks?

1:03.5

I think perimenopause became particularly interesting to me over the last seven years,

1:09.8

probably because of all the crap I dealt with after having

1:12.5

my second baby. And just hormone land was not a peaceful place for me anymore after kids. And then

1:20.0

when you've been in women's health for the better part of two decades, you start kind of drawing

1:26.3

these parallels between your patients and yourself

1:29.0

and you're able to kind of share stories. And then that what we all used to do is sit around

1:33.2

fires and share stories with each other and like commiserate. So I started kind of, I had some

1:38.7

postpartum depression and anxiety. And then I would kind of listen to some of my patients and

1:43.7

their stories and what

1:44.9

they'd be going through and just started drawing these parallels together.

1:49.0

And then I started my perimenopausal symptoms at 36, which about three years ago.

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