320: The Threat of White Christian Nationalism - Part I: Piety Not Required with Jeff Sharlet
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🗓️ 7 February 2024
⏱️ 49 minutes
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In the first episode of “The Threat of White Christian Nationalism”, host Reed Galen is joined by journalist and bestselling author Jeff Sharlet. They discuss the religious and cultural landscape of present-day American evangelicalism, how white Christian nationalism is not "old-time religion" but a rapidly mutating political theology, and how white Christian nationalism isn't synonymous with piety and has warped into an ideology to serve Trumpism. If you’d like to hear more from Jeff Sharlet, be sure to check out his work for Vanity Fair and pick up his latest book, The Undertow: Scenes From A Slow Civil War. For more from Reed Galen, subscribe to “The Home Front”. If you’d like to ask a question or share a comment with The Lincoln Project, send an email to podcast@lincolnproject.us.
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| 0:00.0 | everyone, it's read. These next several episodes are going to be dedicated to the study and |
| 0:05.5 | illustration of the white Christian evangelical movement in America and what it means for our |
| 0:11.4 | politics. We've got some experts, some very thoughtful people, some authors who are all going to |
| 0:16.9 | help us walk through exactly what's going on, how this church operates, and what it |
| 0:22.1 | means for our democracy. I hope you enjoy listening as much as I did interviewing. And now, |
| 0:29.0 | on with the show. Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. |
| 0:40.1 | I'm your host, Reed Galen. |
| 0:42.2 | Today, I'm joined by journalist and New York Times best-telling author, Jeff Charlotte. |
| 0:46.8 | He is a professor of creative writing and the Frederick Sessions Beebe, 35, professor in the art of writing at Dartmouth. |
| 0:53.6 | His writing and photography have appeared in many |
| 0:56.3 | publications, including The New York Times Magazine, GQ, Esquire, and Vanity Fair, for which |
| 1:02.3 | he is a contributing editor. He's written quite the catalog of books, including his latest, |
| 1:06.7 | The Undertow, Scenes from a Slow Civil War, available wherever fine books are sold. |
| 1:11.5 | And I had Jeff on the show last year to talk about it. |
| 1:13.7 | It is definitely worth the read, everybody. |
| 1:15.6 | Jeff, welcome back. |
| 1:17.1 | Hi, Reed. |
| 1:17.5 | Good to be with you again. |
| 1:18.7 | So, Jeff, your book touches on a fair amount of this, but I wanted to spend a little bit |
| 1:24.3 | more time with you setting the scene as we're now in 2024 about the Christian |
| 1:29.4 | nationalist movement. It could be called the white Christian nationalist evangelical movement, |
| 1:34.2 | the evangelical movement, the white evangelical movement. It's got all sorts of different |
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